Re: Turning off Etherpad

[Mark Nottingham <[e-mail]>]

My understanding was always that etherpad was a best-effort, ephemeral service; i.e., there was no guarantee (implicit or explicit) of stability or availability. That's probably the right policy, given that there able to be edited by *anyone on the Internet*.

We might consider a somewhat more formal and explicit policy on service stability and availability (on a service-by-service basis), so that folks aren't surprised by this in the future. E.g., the W3C has:
  https://www.w3.org/Consortium/Persistence

Cheers,


> On 11 Aug 2021, at 11:24 am, Toerless Eckert <[e-mail]> wrote:
> 
> So, what is he plan for archiving etherpad.ietf.org ?
> Can/will the be made read-only/no new data ?
> 
> Or is all that content that may still have URLs in emails and other places
> pointing to it deemed to be lost except for the subset of pages that
> where converted into IETF meeting minuts by WG chairs ?
> 
> If all this content is meant to be lost because it is too difficult to
> change to read-only, is this the same strategy for codimd ? Aka:
> if you do not save it, it will be lost at some point in time ?
> 
> If converting to read-only is too difficult, maybe the whole tree
> can just be put up for download as a tar file for any future researchers...
> However, i am not sure if all the content is meant to be public, or if
> we did assume some degree of possible confidentiality because of non-searchable
> namespace.
> 
> Btw: I think it would be great if codimd would solve these issues:
> You can only create new names under whatever.ietf.org/2021/<your-string-here>
> and after 2 years the whole years directory tree turns read-only with
> indexing/search...
> 
> Cheers
>    Toeless
> 
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 06:05:34PM -0700, Fred Baker wrote:
>> People use it in recording our minutes. Losing it would be unfortunate.
>> 
>>> On Aug 10, 2021, at 2:01 PM, Robert Sparks <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Chairs -
>>> 
>>> We are making plans to turn down etherpad.ietf.org in a few weeks. Let me know of any concerns or need for delay.
>>> 
>>> RjS
>>> 
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