Re: meetecho recordings and slide presentation anti-pattern

Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com> Tue, 18 August 2020 23:22 UTC

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Subject: Re: meetecho recordings and slide presentation anti-pattern
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FYI: Apple's Keynote let's you present in a window rather than a full
screen.

Play | Play Slideshow in Window
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On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 7:33 PM Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
wrote:

>
> I am watching youtube recordings for WGs that I had in conflict.
> here is a screenshot of it:
>   http://www.sandelman.ca/tmp/mcrcapture/2790.2020-08-13/capture1.png
>
> It's nice to have the IETF108 and Ericsson logo.  But, none of the
> who is speaking info is present.  It could go up there next to the logo, or
> next to the WG name.
> Notice what proportion of the video window is used for the slide itself.
> Meetecho has a border. Then PPT has a tool bar. And a slide finder on the
> left.
> No matter how big I make it on my screen, I can't read it easily, because
> not
> enough pixel detail was captured.
>
> Of course, the ideal solution is that meetecho protect the PDF itself, but
> we
> don't have that yet, and this advice applies to zoom, webex, jitsi, whereby
> as well.
>
> Why are we getting this pathology?  because of powerpoint pathologies.
> People are learning now to go into slide mode, because that takes over an
> entire screen.  They are learning to not go into slide mode at all, but to
> project just the application window.  But, a bunch of people are using
> browsers that either do a tab, or the entire screen only.
>
> Given current limitations what should you do:
>   1) print to PDF. Upload that.  If you have animations, there are ways of
>      dealing.
>   2) use simplest PDF viewer possible. Browser is good, but can be annoying
>      to get it full screen, etc. as we have learned with the chair-table
>      chromebooks.
>   3) size the PDF window to about 1024x768 (thinking fondly of 1999, when
> the
>      Internet was best viewed in that size).  That's enough pixels but not
>      too many. Sending fewer pixels allows each of them to take up more
> space
>      on the target viewer's screen, and means they don't have zoom.
>      Also, if your slides look like crap at that resolution, then fix the
> slides.
>
> Will this help for IETF108? Obviously not. I will go get the slide PDF and
> view them directly.  Will this help future virtual interims? I hope so.
>
> I did make a screen shot of my setup when co-chairing ASDF. I was going to
> label all the windows and why they are positioning where they are, but I
> thought it was a waste of time.  I could do that if there is interest.
>
> --
> Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works
>  -= IPv6 IoT consulting =-
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