[76attendees] A Net Neutrality comment
Fred Baker <fred@cisco.com> Mon, 09 November 2009 00:04 UTC
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A remark to those who take a militant libertarian view of Net Neutrality, and those of ledbat and tcpm who have difficulty understanding why transports should tune to the knee (just enough of data outstanding, aka cwnd, to maintain the maximum goodput) as opposed to the cliff (the knee plus the maximum depth of the bottleneck queue, at which point throughput has not increased but loss has increased). Saturday night, as I do many nights that I spend at hotels, I ran a ping study to characterize the network. It was obviously massively overprovisioned - it was difficult to register RTT variance in excess of a millisecond trans-pacific between Japan and the US. I did this again last night. The network behavior as measured from my room was equally stable until about 11:58 PM; at that point, someone fired up something huge, my guess being something that uses bittorrent, delay dramatically increased, and my VPN went down within a couple of minutes. When this happens, customers call ISPs and ISPs start throttling applications, because the applications are doing horrible things to the ISPs' customers. The attached are a case in point.
- [76attendees] A Net Neutrality comment Fred Baker
- Re: [76attendees] A Net Neutrality comment Eric Burger
- Re: [76attendees] A Net Neutrality comment Richard Barnes
- Re: [76attendees] A Net Neutrality comment Tony Li
- Re: [76attendees] A Net Neutrality comment Fred Baker
- Re: [76attendees] A Net Neutrality comment Ted Lemon
- Re: [76attendees] A Net Neutrality comment Richard Barnes
- Re: [76attendees] A Net Neutrality comment Fred Baker
- Re: [76attendees] A Net Neutrality comment Alissa Cooper
- Re: [76attendees] A Net Neutrality comment Dale Worley
- Re: [76attendees] A Net Neutrality comment Jason Livingood