Re: [96attendees] T-Shirts

FWIW OSCON solves this by ordering the women's shirts in a babydoll cut,
which is more flattering anyhow imo.

Sarah Squire
Engage Identity
http://engageidentity.com

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Ersue, Mehmet (Nokia - DE/Munich) <
mehmet.ersue@nokia.com> wrote:

> Hi Kathleen, All,
>
> I was very early and got my t-shirt right after registration on Sunday at
> noon.
> The Large was indeed too large and I have been recommended to take the
> Medium.
>
> Maybe we indeed should standardize the t-shirt sizes so that the ordered
> count fits the count of available t-shirts.
> An Informational RFC for t-shirt sizes with some guidance on how to
> measure/find out the appropriate size would be valuable.
>
> However, publishing an RFC is not really sufficient. We also need to
> ensure that the t-shirts are manufactured using the T-shirt RFC or
> we have a standard mapping possible between the sizes specified in the
> T-shirt RFC and the sizes of the t-shirt manufacturer.
>
> A fall-back solution would be if we order much more t-shirts as originally
> indicated by the meeting attendees.
> Remaining t-shirts can be provided for a raffle during Bits and Bites.
>
> Knowing there is no optimal solution I hope we can improve.
>
> Cheers,
> Mehmet
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 96attendees [mailto:96attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> Kathleen Moriarty
> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 6:15 PM
> To: Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com>
> Cc: 96attendees@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [96attendees] T-Shirts
>
> Hi Alia,
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Kathleen,
> >
> > We did significantly increase the number of women's t-shirts this IETF as
> > compared
> > to previous IETFs.   It's always hard to estimate; having a survey to
> inform
> > future
> > meetings would probably be quite helpful.
> >
> > Just FYI, by the time the registrations and requested sizes information
> > comes in,
> > I think that t-shirts commonly need to be ordered.
> >
> > I know that Juniper did increase the smaller sizes - particularly for
> > women's, based
> > on previously heard concerns.
>
> Thanks for the explanation.  I was just surprised that I was told many
> men were taking the women's sizes, leading to my post.
>
> Best regards,
> Kathleen
>
>
> >
> > Regards,
> > Alia
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Kathleen Moriarty
> > <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> This is the second IETF I was not able to get a T-shirt.  This time I
> >> tried on Monday, last time it was a Tuesday.  The problem seems to be
> >> that men are taking the women sizes.  For this meeting, I was told
> >> that many men thought the men's sizes were too big, so they took a
> >> size they didn't order.
> >>
> >> Can we either plan to order the size we will request or just order
> >> more smaller sizes than what people request, preferably the former.
> >>
> >> I think we are consistently left with the bigger sizes, but could be
> >> wrong.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Kathleen
> >>
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>
>
> --
>
> Best regards,
> Kathleen
>
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