Re: [96attendees] T-Shirts

Hi Kathleen, All,

I was very early and got my t-shirt right after registration on Sunday at noon.
The Large was indeed too large and I have been recommended to take the Medium.

Maybe we indeed should standardize the t-shirt sizes so that the ordered count fits the count of available t-shirts. 
An Informational RFC for t-shirt sizes with some guidance on how to measure/find out the appropriate size would be valuable.

However, publishing an RFC is not really sufficient. We also need to ensure that the t-shirts are manufactured using the T-shirt RFC or 
we have a standard mapping possible between the sizes specified in the T-shirt RFC and the sizes of the t-shirt manufacturer.

A fall-back solution would be if we order much more t-shirts as originally indicated by the meeting attendees.
Remaining t-shirts can be provided for a raffle during Bits and Bites.

Knowing there is no optimal solution I hope we can improve.

Cheers, 
Mehmet 

-----Original Message-----
From: 96attendees [mailto:96attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Kathleen Moriarty
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 6:15 PM
To: Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com>
Cc: 96attendees@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [96attendees] T-Shirts

Hi Alia,

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Kathleen,
>
> We did significantly increase the number of women's t-shirts this IETF as
> compared
> to previous IETFs.   It's always hard to estimate; having a survey to inform
> future
> meetings would probably be quite helpful.
>
> Just FYI, by the time the registrations and requested sizes information
> comes in,
> I think that t-shirts commonly need to be ordered.
>
> I know that Juniper did increase the smaller sizes - particularly for
> women's, based
> on previously heard concerns.

Thanks for the explanation.  I was just surprised that I was told many
men were taking the women's sizes, leading to my post.

Best regards,
Kathleen

>
> Regards,
> Alia
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Kathleen Moriarty
> <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> This is the second IETF I was not able to get a T-shirt.  This time I
>> tried on Monday, last time it was a Tuesday.  The problem seems to be
>> that men are taking the women sizes.  For this meeting, I was told
>> that many men thought the men's sizes were too big, so they took a
>> size they didn't order.
>>
>> Can we either plan to order the size we will request or just order
>> more smaller sizes than what people request, preferably the former.
>>
>> I think we are consistently left with the bigger sizes, but could be
>> wrong.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Kathleen
>>
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Best regards,
Kathleen

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