[96attendees] 1 Social Ticket available at Ietf Registration White/blue Shirt

Paweł Brzozowski <PBrzozowski@advaoptical.com> Tue, 19 July 2016 16:33 UTC

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From: Paweł Brzozowski <PBrzozowski@advaoptical.com>
To: Sarah Squire <sarah@engageidentity.com>, "Ersue, Mehmet (Nokia - DE/Munich)" <mehmet.ersue@nokia.com>
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Od: 96attendees [96attendees-bounces@ietf.org] w imieniu użytkownika Sarah Squire [sarah@engageidentity.com]
Wysłane: 19 lipca 2016 18:28
Do: Ersue, Mehmet (Nokia - DE/Munich)
DW: Kathleen Moriarty; 96attendees@ietf.org; Alia Atlas
Temat: Re: [96attendees] T-Shirts

FWIW OSCON solves this by ordering the women's shirts in a babydoll cut, which is more flattering anyhow imo.

Sarah Squire
Engage Identity
http://engageidentity.com<http://engageidentity.com/>

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Ersue, Mehmet (Nokia - DE/Munich) <mehmet.ersue@nokia.com<mailto:mehmet.ersue@nokia.com>> wrote:
Hi Kathleen, All,

I was very early and got my t-shirt right after registration on Sunday at noon.
The Large was indeed too large and I have been recommended to take the Medium.

Maybe we indeed should standardize the t-shirt sizes so that the ordered count fits the count of available t-shirts.
An Informational RFC for t-shirt sizes with some guidance on how to measure/find out the appropriate size would be valuable.

However, publishing an RFC is not really sufficient. We also need to ensure that the t-shirts are manufactured using the T-shirt RFC or
we have a standard mapping possible between the sizes specified in the T-shirt RFC and the sizes of the t-shirt manufacturer.

A fall-back solution would be if we order much more t-shirts as originally indicated by the meeting attendees.
Remaining t-shirts can be provided for a raffle during Bits and Bites.

Knowing there is no optimal solution I hope we can improve.

Cheers,
Mehmet


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From: 96attendees [mailto:96attendees-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:96attendees-bounces@ietf.org>] On Behalf Of Kathleen Moriarty
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To: Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com<mailto:akatlas@gmail.com>>
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Subject: Re: [96attendees] T-Shirts

Hi Alia,

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com<mailto:akatlas@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hi Kathleen,
>
> We did significantly increase the number of women's t-shirts this IETF as
> compared
> to previous IETFs.   It's always hard to estimate; having a survey to inform
> future
> meetings would probably be quite helpful.
>
> Just FYI, by the time the registrations and requested sizes information
> comes in,
> I think that t-shirts commonly need to be ordered.
>
> I know that Juniper did increase the smaller sizes - particularly for
> women's, based
> on previously heard concerns.

Thanks for the explanation.  I was just surprised that I was told many
men were taking the women's sizes, leading to my post.

Best regards,
Kathleen


>
> Regards,
> Alia
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Kathleen Moriarty
> <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com<mailto:kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> This is the second IETF I was not able to get a T-shirt.  This time I
>> tried on Monday, last time it was a Tuesday.  The problem seems to be
>> that men are taking the women sizes.  For this meeting, I was told
>> that many men thought the men's sizes were too big, so they took a
>> size they didn't order.
>>
>> Can we either plan to order the size we will request or just order
>> more smaller sizes than what people request, preferably the former.
>>
>> I think we are consistently left with the bigger sizes, but could be
>> wrong.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Kathleen
>>
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Kathleen

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