Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning
Qin Wu <bill.wu@huawei.com> Mon, 21 November 2016 05:56 UTC
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From: Qin Wu <bill.wu@huawei.com>
To: Shane Kerr <shane@biigroup.cn>, Aaron Falk <aaron.falk@gmail.com>, "97attendees@ietf.org" <97attendees@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning
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Agree with Aaron, food safety control or investigation is only required if we got enough evidence or data. But food safety awareness is important for each participant, Yes, IETF can provide several recommended restaurants near to meeting venue and also we can invite local host as guide to help select several popular restaurants nearby. We also can choose a popular restaurants with more people waiting in a queue. Seafood or half cooked food has a lot of risk. At least, this is my experience.:-) -Qin 发件人: 97attendees [mailto:97attendees-bounces@ietf.org] 代表 Shane Kerr 发送时间: 2016年11月21日 9:42 收件人: Aaron Falk; 97attendees@ietf.org 主题: Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Aaron, I would caution against the IETF embarking down the road of trying to do ad-hoc public health screening. We have no expertise in this area, and our sample size is small, the time frame of an IETF meeting is smaller than the potential lifetime of food poisoning, and there are so many confounding factors that we are unlikely to get any valid results. My father worked in public health for 30 years or so - he was a food inspector for the US Army. I remember once he told me that about half of cases of food poisoning were actually from food poisoning, and the other half were non-food-related. Contrariwise a lot of food poisoning goes unreported because it is mild or contains symptoms similar to other ailments. Humans are even harder to diagnose than computer networks, it turns out. ;) Certainly the IETF can and possibly should consider reviewing records and recommendations about all health in potential destinations - not just food safety but also other potential health problems. (I don't follow the meeting selection process so it is possible this is already on a checklist.) As a final note, you can avoid all problems with seafood, poorly cooked meat and the like by eating vegetarian. ;) Cheers, -- Shane ------------------ Original ------------------ From: "Aaron Falk"<aaron.falk@gmail.com<mailto:aaron.falk@gmail.com>>; Date: Thu, Dec 1, 2016 03:25 AM To: "97attendees@ietf.org<mailto:97attendees@ietf.org>"<97attendees@ietf.org<mailto:97attendees@ietf.org>>; Subject: [97attendees] Food poisoning I've learned of five people, in 4 different groups, who got food poisoning in Seoul. Seems like something to keep track of when considering future meetings in the area. Perhaps folks would self-report on this thread in case there are additional cases...
- [97attendees] Food poisoning Aaron Falk
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Shane Kerr
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning David Allan I
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning John C Klensin
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Adam Roach
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning David Allan I
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Qin Wu
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Qin Wu
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Qin Wu
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Paul Wilson
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Ersue, Mehmet (Nokia - DE/Munich)
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Christer Holmberg
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Marco Davids (SIDN)
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Xiaohong Deng
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Carsten Bormann
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Kyle Rose
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning ietf
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… Ackermann, Michael
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Aaron Falk
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Carlos M. Martinez
- [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food poisonin… Lou Berger
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… Bert Wijnen (IETF)
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… Carlos M. Martinez
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… Xiaohong Deng
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Toerless Eckert
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Yoav Nir
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… John C Klensin
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Randy Bush
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Randy Bush
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… John C Klensin
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… Qin Wu
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… John C Klensin
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… Brian E Carpenter
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- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… Susan Hares
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… Tim Chown
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