Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning
Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> Mon, 21 November 2016 18:29 UTC
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From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
To: Shane Kerr <shane@biigroup.cn>
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On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 09:41:31AM +0800, Shane Kerr wrote: > As a final note, you can avoid all problems with seafood, poorly cooked meat and the like by eating vegetarian. ;) The one time i think i can track back a food illness was in in a recommended Sushi place in Tokyo where i noted the dirty fingernails of the chef only when it was too late. I would never blame the fish. It is all a fault of starbucks coffee failing as a morning after pill. Seriously: in the past, it was good enough to follow traveller advise to avoid uncooked foods & drinks, use bottled water etc. Alas, with the the great hygiene standards in western countries and the resulting consumer lazyness and trends for paelo and raw food, the biggest problems are now hitting at home with vegetables. Here are just the two recent ones where i live. One of them might have caused the death of a friend (hospital was too lazy to fully investigate): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_North_American_E._coli_O157:H7_outbreak_in_spinach https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Germany_E._coli_O104:H4_outbreak > Cheers, Hmm... The sake didn't help as a desinfectant either. Not enough proof. Maybe some Suntory would have done the trick. Toerless > -- > Shane > > ------------------ Original ------------------ > From: "Aaron Falk"<aaron.falk@gmail.com>; > Date: Thu, Dec 1, 2016 03:25 AM > To: "97attendees@ietf.org"<97attendees@ietf.org>; > > Subject: [97attendees] Food poisoning > > > I've learned of five people, in 4 different groups, who got food poisoning in Seoul. Seems like something to keep track of when considering future meetings in the area. Perhaps folks would self-report on this thread in case there are additional cases... > _______________________________________________ > 97attendees mailing list > 97attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/97attendees -- --- tte@cs.fau.de
- [97attendees] Food poisoning Aaron Falk
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Shane Kerr
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning David Allan I
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning John C Klensin
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Adam Roach
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning David Allan I
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Qin Wu
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Qin Wu
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Qin Wu
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Paul Wilson
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Ersue, Mehmet (Nokia - DE/Munich)
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Christer Holmberg
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Marco Davids (SIDN)
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Xiaohong Deng
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Carsten Bormann
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Kyle Rose
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning ietf
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… Ackermann, Michael
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Aaron Falk
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Carlos M. Martinez
- [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food poisonin… Lou Berger
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… Bert Wijnen (IETF)
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… Carlos M. Martinez
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… Xiaohong Deng
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Toerless Eckert
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Yoav Nir
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… John C Klensin
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Randy Bush
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Randy Bush
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… John C Klensin
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… Qin Wu
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… John C Klensin
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… Brian E Carpenter
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- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… Susan Hares
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… Tim Chown
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