Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning
Xiaohong Deng <dxhbupt@gmail.com> Mon, 21 November 2016 12:11 UTC
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From: Xiaohong Deng <dxhbupt@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 23:11:18 +1100
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To: Shane Kerr <shane@biigroup.cn>
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Subject: Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning
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On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Shane Kerr <shane@biigroup.cn> wrote: > Aaron, > > I would caution against the IETF embarking down the road of trying to do > ad-hoc public health screening. We have no expertise in this area, and our > sample size is small, the time frame of an IETF meeting is smaller than the > potential lifetime of food poisoning, and there are so many confounding > factors that we are unlikely to get any valid results. > > My father worked in public health for 30 years or so - he was a food > inspector for the US Army. I remember once he told me that about half of > cases of food poisoning were actually from food poisoning, and the other > half were non-food-related. Contrariwise a lot of food poisoning goes > unreported because it is mild or contains symptoms similar to other > ailments. Humans are even harder to diagnose than computer networks, it > turns out. ;) > > Certainly the IETF can and possibly should consider reviewing records and > recommendations about all health in potential destinations - not just food > safety but also other potential health problems. (I don't follow the > meeting selection process so it is possible this is already on a checklist.) > > As a final note, you can avoid all problems with seafood, poorly cooked > meat and the like by eating vegetarian. ;) > +1 for eating vegetarian. I suffered from mild chronic diarrhea for 18 months, since moved from China to Australia, where it suppose to have a higher bar for food regulation. Tried diary-free, gluten-free diets; went to different specialists; having all weird kind of blood/chemical tests done. Nothing helped like being in a 10 days meditation retreat with pure vegetarian food. and then turned into vegetarian. Having iron, zinc and other nutrition level checked regularly, and my doctor says everything in perfect range ever since. -x > > Cheers, > > -- > Shane > > ------------------ Original ------------------ > *From: * "Aaron Falk"<aaron.falk@gmail.com>; > *Date: * Thu, Dec 1, 2016 03:25 AM > *To: * "97attendees@ietf.org"<97attendees@ietf.org>; > *Subject: * [97attendees] Food poisoning > > I've learned of five people, in 4 different groups, who got food poisoning > in Seoul. Seems like something to keep track of when considering future > meetings in the area. Perhaps folks would self-report on this thread in > case there are additional cases... > > _______________________________________________ > 97attendees mailing list > 97attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/97attendees > >
- [97attendees] Food poisoning Aaron Falk
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Shane Kerr
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning David Allan I
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning John C Klensin
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Adam Roach
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning David Allan I
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Qin Wu
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Qin Wu
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Qin Wu
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Paul Wilson
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Ersue, Mehmet (Nokia - DE/Munich)
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Christer Holmberg
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Marco Davids (SIDN)
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Xiaohong Deng
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Carsten Bormann
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Kyle Rose
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning ietf
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… Ackermann, Michael
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Aaron Falk
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Carlos M. Martinez
- [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food poisonin… Lou Berger
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… Bert Wijnen (IETF)
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… Carlos M. Martinez
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… Xiaohong Deng
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Toerless Eckert
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Yoav Nir
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… John C Klensin
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Randy Bush
- Re: [97attendees] Food poisoning Randy Bush
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… John C Klensin
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… Qin Wu
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… John C Klensin
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… Meetecho IETF support
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… Susan Hares
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… Tim Chown
- Re: [97attendees] Thanks for Seoul (Re: Food pois… uj