Re: [Add] [Ext] My single use case

Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@icann.org> Fri, 11 September 2020 14:51 UTC

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On Sep 11, 2020, at 5:06 AM, tirumal reddy <kondtir@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 16:45, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
> 
>> For wired network you plug into the wall.
>> For a wireless network, someone gives you an SSID and a (common) password.
>> 
> You seem to be referring to home/coffee shop use cases and not relevant to on-boarding devices in an enterprise network.

It is wrong to say that Ekr's model "is not relevant" to enterprise networks. Some enterprise networks use extra configuration for handing out resolver information, many enterprise networks (including the one I'm using at the moment) do not.

It's fine to say that Martin's use case is not the use case you personally are interested in; please don't dismiss it as "not relevant".

--Paul Hoffman