Re: [Add] Zone ownership in DNS server discovery
"Vinny Parla (vparla)" <vparla@cisco.com> Fri, 11 September 2020 00:44 UTC
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From: "Vinny Parla (vparla)" <vparla@cisco.com>
To: Tommy Jensen <Jensen.Thomas=40microsoft.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, "Vinny Parla (vparla)" <vparla=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
CC: Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com>, ADD Mailing list <add@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Add] Zone ownership in DNS server discovery
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Thanks for the clarification. I concur that this divergent behavior exists today with classic DNS. Look no further than TTL caching behavior of Outlook or Browsers. I don't view this as a good thing but clearly understand the guidance being given below. -Vinny From: Add <add-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Tommy Jensen Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 7:34 PM To: Vinny Parla (vparla) <vparla=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org> Cc: Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com>; ADD Mailing list <add@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [Add] Zone ownership in DNS server discovery Hey Vinny, Yes, but I'd say that's not a hypothetical statement and is already true today. A DNS client could implement a full recursive if they wanted to for example and cache authoritative servers they discover, an extreme example of "bypassing" a need for a recursive. I'm just suggesting the decision of what server to query for a given name is up to individual implementors, and domains providing authoritative information about designated DNS servers would make that easier than having to be a full recursive (since you can slowly bootstrap these designations). Thanks, Tommy ================================================ The latest in Windows Internet Protocols: Native gRPC support: <https://aka.ms/grpcblogpost> https://aka.ms/grpcblogpost DNS over HTTPS: <https://aka.ms/dohblogpost> https://aka.ms/dohblogpost _____ From: Vinny Parla (vparla) Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 4:18 PM To: Tommy Jensen Cc: ADD Mailing list; Jim Reid Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: Zone ownership in DNS server discovery Hi, So if I understand the statement below, it is entirely up to an algorithm of the implementor, which could differ from endpoint to endpoint or browser to browse, to choose either to use the authoritative vs the recursive resolver. Did I understand this correctly? Thanks, -Vinny
- [Add] My single use case Martin Thomson
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] My single use case Tommy Jensen
- Re: [Add] My single use case Chris Box (BT)
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] My single use case Jim Reid
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] My single use case Robert Mortimer
- [Add] Zone ownership in DNS server discovery Tommy Jensen
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] My single use case Ben Schwartz
- Re: [Add] Zone ownership in DNS server discovery Vinny Parla (vparla)
- Re: [Add] Zone ownership in DNS server discovery Tommy Jensen
- Re: [Add] Zone ownership in DNS server discovery Vinny Parla (vparla)
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] My single use case Martin Thomson
- Re: [Add] My single use case Martin Thomson
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