Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Ext] My single use case

["Geist, Dan (CCI-Atlanta)" <[e-mail]>]

It’s worth stating that use cases and users are not the same. We’re describing attributes of how (or if?) an enterprise, or retailer, or service provider, or home user chooses to implement resolver configuration or discovery. The fact is that most are likely a hybrid of mechanisms careered to their needs (i.e. coffee shop shared Wifi with a password on the wall is not fundamentally different than a large enterprise that provides guest Wifi to professional visitors via similar shared key).

Many enterprises use configuration tools to set certain things and may simultaneously use automatic discovery mechanisms for other things for architectural or business reasons. The overall security posture or purpose of the provider/consumer should not be a key factor in defining how any given discovery mechanism works, only what the technology bits are and how they function.

Agreeing to make the use case discussions about “what” and not “who” or “why” makes those discussions simpler.

Thanks.
Dan

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Add] [Ext] My single use case

On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 20:21, Paul Hoffman <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
On Sep 11, 2020, at 5:06 AM, tirumal reddy <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
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> On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 16:45, Eric Rescorla <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
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>> For wired network you plug into the wall.
>> For a wireless network, someone gives you an SSID and a (common) password.
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> You seem to be referring to home/coffee shop use cases and not relevant to on-boarding devices in an enterprise network.

It is wrong to say that Ekr's model "is not relevant" to enterprise networks.

I only meant common password is "not relevent" to an Enterprise network.

Some enterprise networks use extra configuration for handing out resolver information,
many enterprise networks (including the one I'm using at the moment) do not.

Yes, it depends on the enterprise network. In addtion, whether it is a IT-owned devices, BYOD with MDM or configuration profile or a BYOD with unique credentails. The use case should consider all the above type devices including IoT devices.


It's fine to say that Martin's use case is not the use case you personally are interested in; please don't dismiss it as "not relevant".

I am interested in the use case :)  I would like to understand whether the use case is for a Home or Enterprise network.

Cheers,
-Tiru


--Paul Hoffman