Re: [admin-discuss] Attempt to diagram the structure of the IETF
Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Mon, 21 February 2022 00:58 UTC
Return-Path: <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: admin-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: admin-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F16D83A09A3;
Sun, 20 Feb 2022 16:58:48 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.811
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.811 tagged_above=-999 required=5
tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1,
DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001,
NICE_REPLY_A=-0.714, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001,
SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key)
header.d=gmail.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44])
by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
with ESMTP id 98JMFd5tjAH5; Sun, 20 Feb 2022 16:58:47 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail-pl1-x632.google.com (mail-pl1-x632.google.com
[IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::632])
(using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits))
(No client certificate requested)
by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 64E713A0BF2;
Sun, 20 Feb 2022 16:58:41 -0800 (PST)
Received: by mail-pl1-x632.google.com with SMTP id z2so2932002plg.8;
Sun, 20 Feb 2022 16:58:41 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112;
h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version
:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding;
bh=RBvLmNW2cWl49uO2KIFjOcry/cSGH8y1w04ikRIEgg0=;
b=RzD4MXQMsn8Lk1Kk7mkNKO5kef7okStknzrN9iuV+rgZZwenX+NcbhfnJKk06fiMvZ
BTupVS2N1zB1ePhP68NDRO9EKgy2xMzDAkejpeBDSvaYLMquBj3aGaBSHO4w7h1o0QjA
lOQy1ms70o32HI50GtjvG6x057JSOtVZyo/v6hU8Bv0tGLO5qACgJ6hlyBZ/zq5ATUKt
5ZR8KxMHJJm6iuQBk61wCRSR3PHNTOOcCbjrWSRkOYeOsV7NlOAKY970bObhWpSUiPml
Ax06GZP0UZIPQ8zvXlefPcBjK4pfQj8LYjMse+tkOod5XUQlCsNOs/1jxx8xoLCV+Mp7
1XDw==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
d=1e100.net; s=20210112;
h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date
:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language
:content-transfer-encoding;
bh=RBvLmNW2cWl49uO2KIFjOcry/cSGH8y1w04ikRIEgg0=;
b=mYz1s2qMm/F/s/iVOPHJl8QMCbiTiwBVipMBXgqbqR5wI/vwVZh+Uppitz1O8JpjwX
qcZuAJewq8/Sj+sgSe+x+x6JZPhWGOKXR7neRLfvHJvmw8f2GASJxCm22EACH27v0RyO
Nm9mJINuN8FYVwzKe65vYeRRs8P2ygLro14BsXs2Vw4iSXoVcRSwNkKELQccux99bO0l
qjwZcbaxxhgqpCAyNGmaqycPj1GuslY+nGmvlTm3N+gVW/8R8ehNI/iHLHRmpZXSAY/o
GtLhXBT8yWiyNfgSOmUx07ZTQKQTluel9GnPmwugzdTxjentriUHN5kEs9w+HY+LG+C0
nVBg==
X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531NnyFJUY3biMfRSm+yihSQHH4F0MenxPYvDHE1I32McK1Mtnbl
x60Tzjuyjh5ERKQiNUxkTvCv4YYJ62KEmA==
X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzTiQRnvJDLcDfH6boqhtu6WHjCAWKSza9dV3k/rD3oA833AkU7f+2bmy7mSzWAIaHA29eMlg==
X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:9348:b0:14e:ec3d:2baa with SMTP id
g8-20020a170902934800b0014eec3d2baamr16764459plp.107.1645405120286;
Sun, 20 Feb 2022 16:58:40 -0800 (PST)
Received: from ?IPv6:2406:e003:1005:b501:80b2:5c79:2266:e431?
([2406:e003:1005:b501:80b2:5c79:2266:e431])
by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u19sm6348571pfk.203.2022.02.20.16.58.38
(version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128);
Sun, 20 Feb 2022 16:58:39 -0800 (PST)
To: Jay Daley <exec-director@ietf.org>, admin-discuss@ietf.org
References: <12F3A997-DF48-4AA1-B744-8D310D460397@ietf.org>
From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <42dafdd9-dbfb-2ecd-e32a-0818e6d32b50@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 13:58:35 +1300
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101
Thunderbird/78.10.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <12F3A997-DF48-4AA1-B744-8D310D460397@ietf.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Language: en-US
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/admin-discuss/MJ9OA3Z4m8tcAEIX-0zveut7GHA>
Subject: Re: [admin-discuss] Attempt to diagram the structure of the IETF
X-BeenThere: admin-discuss@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: Discussion list for IETF LLC administrative issues
<admin-discuss.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/admin-discuss>,
<mailto:admin-discuss-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/admin-discuss/>
List-Post: <mailto:admin-discuss@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:admin-discuss-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/admin-discuss>,
<mailto:admin-discuss-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 00:58:49 -0000
I need to buy a bigger screen ;-). Maybe an outsider needs a very simplified version first, followed by this for the details.
One missing component (I think) is the tools team itself, even if technically "inside" the LLC. For a potential contractor, that would be the first question: where do I fit in?
Is there a way to show that the NomCom is populated from the community?
Off topic: should there also be an IETF workflow diagram? I'm not aware of one on the web site. There have been personal efforts in the past, but perhaps an agreed version would be helpful both to contractors and participants.
Regards
Brian Carpenter
On 21-Feb-22 12:24, Jay Daley wrote:
> I’ve had a go at diagramming the structure of the IETF and inter-related organisations to assist new staff and contractors:
>
> https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/IETF_Structure_-_February_2022.png
>
> While the RSWG/RSAB are not officially approved, they are included.
>
> Any feedback most welcome.
>
> cheers
> Jay
>
- [admin-discuss] Attempt to diagram the structure … Jay Daley
- Re: [admin-discuss] Attempt to diagram the struct… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [admin-discuss] Attempt to diagram the struct… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [admin-discuss] Attempt to diagram the struct… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [admin-discuss] Attempt to diagram the struct… Jay Daley
- Re: [admin-discuss] Attempt to diagram the struct… Colin Perkins
- Re: [admin-discuss] Attempt to diagram the struct… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [admin-discuss] Attempt to diagram the struct… Jay Daley
- Re: [admin-discuss] Attempt to diagram the struct… Bob Hinden
- Re: [admin-discuss] Attempt to diagram the struct… Russ Housley
- Re: [admin-discuss] Attempt to diagram the struct… John Levine
- Re: [admin-discuss] Attempt to diagram the struct… Russ Housley
- Re: [admin-discuss] Attempt to diagram the struct… Jay Daley
- Re: [admin-discuss] Attempt to diagram the struct… Jay Daley
- Re: [admin-discuss] Attempt to diagram the struct… Jay Daley
- Re: [admin-discuss] Attempt to diagram the struct… Deen, Glenn (NBCUniversal)
- Re: [admin-discuss] Attempt to diagram the struct… Jay Daley
- Re: [admin-discuss] Attempt to diagram the struct… Deen, Glenn (NBCUniversal)
- Re: [admin-discuss] Attempt to diagram the struct… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [admin-discuss] Attempt to diagram the struct… Jay Daley
- Re: [admin-discuss] Attempt to diagram the struct… Bob Hinden
- Re: [admin-discuss] Attempt to diagram the struct… Jay Daley
- Re: [admin-discuss] Attempt to diagram the struct… Bob Hinden
- Re: [admin-discuss] Attempt to diagram the struct… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [admin-discuss] Attempt to diagram the struct… Jay Daley
- Re: [admin-discuss] Attempt to diagram the struct… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [admin-discuss] Attempt to diagram the struct… Brian E Carpenter