Re: [antitrust-policy] New Version Notification for draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-06.txt

[Eric Rescorla <[e-mail]>]

On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 5:22 AM Jay Daley <[e-mail]> wrote:

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> On 25 Aug 2023, at 12:41, Stephen Farrell <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
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> Hiya,
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> On 25/08/2023 11:31, Jay Daley wrote:
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>  * Using/unpublished/  market data to evaluate the relative
> implementation costs of/alternative technical proposals/  to decide
> whether one is significantly more feasible in the market and thus
> a better candidate for standardization.
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> FWIW, I don't think that's an improvement. We often
> get reports that someone reports x% failures with a
> new mechanism without them publishing the underlying
> data, and we often do, and should, act on those if
> they're credible (which they mostly are in my
> experience).
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> Maybe the problem is the phrase "market data"? Is
> that meant to include/exclude e.g. reports that
> trials have found that a new TLS extension causes
> some deployed implementations to misbehave?
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> As I understand it, what you are describing is technical data, not market
> data, which is commercial information (sales, prices, etc) but I’m sure
> others will correct me if I’m wrong.
>

So this would preclude "We called patent holder X and the royalty fee they
wanted to charge was prohibitive?"

-Ekr

Jay
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> Ta,
> S.
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