Re: [apps-discuss] WGLC: draft-faltstrom-5892bis-04.txt

Stéphane Lancel <stelancel@gmail.com> Wed, 27 April 2011 15:56 UTC

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Le 27 avril 2011 16:58, Andrew Sullivan <ajs@shinkuro.com> a écrit :

> I think you're wrong in two ways.
>

No problem. I try to understand.

   " But IDNA2008 depends on Unicode and its properties.  If Unicode changes
properties such that something moves from PVALID to something else",

is that not a change in Unicode, i.e. a new version ?


> We wanted to be Unicode-version independent, and so that strategy doesn't
> meet the goal.
>

Here I am lost.



> Second, I don't think "at character level not at codepoint level" is right.
>  We're dealing in code points.
>

Yes, and their properties change for the same character ?

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S. Lancel