Re: [arch-d] IAB Technical Discussion on Fragmentation: 2023-05-03

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Wed, 03 May 2023 21:12 UTC

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On 04-May-23 03:36, Vittorio Bertola wrote:

Thanks for sending your view of the meeting. On one point:

>  I thought that we were in favour of privacy and end-user control, not against! 

It certainly depends on who you mean by "we". We, the IETF, and by implication the IAB, are to some extent the victims of the tussle here. Yes, we believe that making the Internet work better includes providing technology for private end-to-end communication. We work to specify such technology. But I think you'll find that this is dual-use technology. It can be used to create walled gardens as well as to protect individual rights. I think that the dual-use analogy probably extends to most of the technology of concern here.

You are correct that the IAB and the IETF need to watch out here and, I believe, need to steer clear of taking sides about how our dual-use technology is applied. ISOC might want to get into that morass, but we here should stay out of it, IMHO.

Regards
     Brian