Re: [arch-d] IAB Technical Discussion on Fragmentation: 2023-05-03

Vittorio Bertola <vittorio.bertola@open-xchange.com> Tue, 02 May 2023 10:37 UTC

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> Il 28/04/2023 23:54 CEST Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com> ha scritto:
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> Bob,
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> I also had the same initial thought. And I've even got an RFC discussing pseudowire fragmentation, so I was looking forward to an IP fragmentation discussion!
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I guess this is part of the current, extensive effort by the I* organisations (mostly ISOC and ICANN) to counter any renewed proposals for a different governance structure for the key technical resources of the Internet, i.e. names and numbers (did anyone say ITU?).
 
However, there is some ambiguity on whether this also extends to regulation at the application layer, like the recent efforts in Europe to establish rules that would force the global Internet industry to tailor their services to specific European norms (this may go as far, to give you an example of a current discussion, to require AI models to be able to forget all information they learned about a specific European citizen, which of course is not technically easy; but it also includes pro-competition measures against walled gardens, requirements for large online information platforms, and, more controversially, proposals to mandate the screening of personal messages for CSAM).
 
I am curious to see how the IAB defines "fragmentation" - this is an ongoing discussion at the already mentioned IGF PNIF - and thus what is the scope of this "technical discussion". Personally, I would encourage the IAB to stay out of the latter set of problems, as there is almost nothing technical in them - it's all about policy, values, interests and compromises.
 
Ciao,

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