Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core
Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> Tue, 18 August 2020 05:26 UTC
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From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
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Subject: Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core
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Multiple parallel TCP connections to overcome TCP issues with high capacity high loss paths even in the absence of congestion was always a bad workaround. Digital Fountain was already selling software 15 years ago with scatter storage and network coding gather retrieval. Still network coding researchers seem to claim this stuff is new today. A lot of of the network side problems of this are the result of the traditional, uncontrolled transit SP paths, aka: the classical Internet model. Cheers Toerless On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 11:54:34AM +1200, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > On 18-Aug-20 04:42, Toerless Eckert wrote: > ... > > > -> I would like for traffic to get bandwidth share indpendent of the > > number of 5 tuple flows it utilizes (no gaming the system). But > > rather fair per subscriber (weighted by how much the subscriber pays). > > You just broke GridFTP, used in Big Science to move terabyte datasets > around the world efficiently. It's not gaming, it's achieving throughput > despite defects in TCP. But the topic is very much alive there, since > GridFTP is now unsupported. > > For further reading: > https://twiki.cern.ch/twiki/bin/view/LCG/ThirdPartyCopy > > Brian
- Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core John Grant
- Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Jared Mauch
- Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Scott Shenker
- Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Toerless Eckert
- Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Christian Huitema
- Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Scott Shenker
- Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Joseph Touch
- Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core John Grant
- [arch-d] Fwd: A Public Option for the Core John Day
- Re: [arch-d] Fwd: A Public Option for the Core Joe Touch
- Re: [arch-d] Fwd: A Public Option for the Core Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [arch-d] Fwd: A Public Option for the Core Toerless Eckert
- Re: [arch-d] Fwd: A Public Option for the Core John Day
- Re: [arch-d] Fwd: A Public Option for the Core Toerless Eckert
- Re: [arch-d] Fwd: A Public Option for the Core Andrew Campling
- Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Joseph Touch
- Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Joseph Touch
- Re: [arch-d] Fwd: A Public Option for the Core Toerless Eckert
- Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Christian Huitema
- Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Toerless Eckert
- Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Toerless Eckert
- Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Christian Huitema
- Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Joseph Touch
- Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Joseph Touch
- Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core John Levine
- Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Toerless Eckert
- Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Toerless Eckert
- Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Joseph Touch
- Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Andrew Campling
- Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Toerless Eckert