[arch-d] Fwd: A Public Option for the Core

John Day <jeanjour@comcast.net> Sun, 16 August 2020 10:18 UTC

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Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 06:18:41 -0400
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Subject: [arch-d] Fwd: A Public Option for the Core
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> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: John Day <jeanjour@comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core
> Date: August 16, 2020 at 06:18:04 EDT
> To: John Grant <j@ninetiles.com>
> 
> No, that is not true.  Your first mistake is that there is a control plane.
> 
> John
> 
>> On Aug 16, 2020, at 06:02, John Grant <j@ninetiles.com> wrote:
>> 
>> On 16/08/2020 02:48, Joseph Touch wrote:
>>> *I* want apps to be able to get different service from the network and to pay differently for them if needed, but *never* to have the network infer or enforce that mapping.
>> Of course, if you're going to do that -- have the application negotiate a particular kind of service rather than have the network "inspect" the packets and guess what service is needed -- you need a control plane protocol (let's call it "signalling") to do the negotiation, and you no longer have the connectionless/stateless paradigm on which IP is founded.
>> 
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Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Brian E Carpenter
Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core John Grant
Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Jared Mauch
Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Scott Shenker
Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Toerless Eckert
Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Christian Huitema
Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Scott Shenker
Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Brian E Carpenter
Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Joseph Touch
Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core John Grant
[arch-d] Fwd: A Public Option for the Core John Day
Re: [arch-d] Fwd: A Public Option for the Core Joe Touch
Re: [arch-d] Fwd: A Public Option for the Core Brian E Carpenter
Re: [arch-d] Fwd: A Public Option for the Core Toerless Eckert
Re: [arch-d] Fwd: A Public Option for the Core John Day
Re: [arch-d] Fwd: A Public Option for the Core Toerless Eckert
Re: [arch-d] Fwd: A Public Option for the Core Andrew Campling
Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Joseph Touch
Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Joseph Touch
Re: [arch-d] Fwd: A Public Option for the Core Toerless Eckert
Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Christian Huitema
Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Toerless Eckert
Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Toerless Eckert
Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Christian Huitema
Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Joseph Touch
Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Joseph Touch
Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core John Levine
Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Toerless Eckert
Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Brian E Carpenter
Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Toerless Eckert
Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Joseph Touch
Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Brian E Carpenter
Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Marie-Jose Montpetit
Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Andrew Campling
Re: [arch-d] A Public Option for the Core Toerless Eckert