Re: [arch-d] [IAB] [E-impact] New IAB Technical Program: Environmental Impacts of Internet Technology (EIMPACT)

Hesham ElBakoury <helbakoury@gmail.com> Tue, 29 August 2023 22:30 UTC

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From: Hesham ElBakoury <helbakoury@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2023 15:30:27 -0700
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Subject: Re: [arch-d] [IAB] [E-impact] New IAB Technical Program: Environmental Impacts of Internet Technology (EIMPACT)
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I moved the discussion about quantum computers energy efficiency to qirg
email list.

Thanks
Hesham

On Tue, Aug 29, 2023, 12:11 PM Mirja Kuehlewind <ietf@kuehlewind.net> wrote:

> There is a research group on quantum computing which is probably the
> better place for this discussion. I recommend you to subscribe to the list
> of that group: https://irtf.org/qirg.html
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> Also note that we provided this information to the ITU-T two years ago:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1757/
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> On 26. Aug 2023, at 19:37, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
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> One interesting result might be that quantum computers are practical, but
> are
> horribly energy inefficient.    I suspect many PQC algorithms cost more in
> energy than E[CD]DSA; certainly they cost more bytes on the wire.
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> We could wind up in a future where we can break RSA, but it costs the
> daily energy
> budget of a small nation to do it.  We'll all know by the rolling blackouts
> when someone tries...
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> Meanwhile, rapidly changing discrete keys could be energetically cheaper.
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> Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>   . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting )
>           Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide
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