Re: [arch-d] The Internet Architecture for Pandemics/Emergencies/Crises
S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Sat, 09 May 2020 09:50 UTC
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Date: Sat, 09 May 2020 02:49:23 -0700
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Subject: Re: [arch-d] The Internet Architecture for Pandemics/Emergencies/Crises
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Hi Toerless, At 08:33 AM 08-05-2020, Toerless Eckert wrote: >I forwarded to manycouched and mboned because scalable, free video >conferencing >specifically for emergency response style large scale conferences is >certinly a key tool, but to me the ISOC call for proposals looks like >very much baked to favour established administrative entities (must be >able to have track record to manage the money). Aka: I fear it will >exclude core technical innovators that have not managed to build up >a bureaucracy large enough to deal with money that way. Too bad. According to the blog post, the grant is from a foundation which is based in Virginia (United States). It looks oriented for that country given that one of the requirements is 501c3 or equivalent. The track record requirement favors entities which are already established. There has to be some checks in place or else you will end up sponsoring illegal activities or inappropriate use of funds. Bureaucracy ignores genuine cases, e.g. the people you would like to help may not fulfill the requirements. It can also end up driving funding towards managing the funds instead of the actual objective. Regards, S. Moonesamy
- [arch-d] The Internet Architecture for Pandemics/… Guntur Wiseno Putra
- Re: [arch-d] The Internet Architecture for Pandem… John Day
- Re: [arch-d] The Internet Architecture for Pandem… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [arch-d] The Internet Architecture for Pandem… S Moonesamy
- Re: [arch-d] The Internet Architecture for Pandem… John Levine
- [arch-d] The Internet Architecture for Pandemics/… Guntur Wiseno Putra
- Re: [arch-d] The Internet Architecture for Pandem… S Moonesamy
- Re: [arch-d] The Internet Architecture for Pandem… wjgo_10009@btinternet.com
- Re: [arch-d] The Internet Architecture for Pandem… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [arch-d] The Internet Architecture for Pandem… Guntur Wiseno Putra