Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maintenance-08.txt
Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> Fri, 15 July 2022 16:02 UTC
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From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
To: "Bless, Roland (TM)" <roland.bless@kit.edu>
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Subject: Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maintenance-08.txt
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On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 11:47:25AM +0200, Bless, Roland (TM) wrote: > I never thought that the Robustness Principle claimed to _guarantee_ > interoperability > in any way. IMHO it is a relative statement, i.e., if one follows the > Robustness Principle > chances are higher to get interoperable implementations. However, it is > correct that > especially the "be liberal in what you accept" part may lead to different > results > when different implementers apply it to the same spec. Thanks, Roland. Yes, guarantee was a bit over the top, maybe a better way to rephrase is to say that forcing specs to become more complete is better than to hope for multiple implementers luckily implementing interoperable rubustness-principle based code for the missing parts of the spec. Which i think is what Martin means. Cheers Toerless > Regards, > Roland > > > > If that is about right, then maybe text like that previous sentence would > > help make it clearer what the intention of the text in Martin's draft is. > > Otherwise it is either me being too stupid to be an approved reader of > > the draft, or the draft is underspecified for me to understand it. > > > > In any case, we (IETF) are a lot more authoritative to drive better > > specifications than better implementations, so this whole discussion > > even into this degree of nitpicking is hopefully useful to our work > > product in the future and not just thought inspiring for those who > > like to quarrel about it. > > > > Cheers > > Toerless > -- --- tte@cs.fau.de
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maint… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maint… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maint… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maint… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maint… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maint… Martin Thomson
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maint… Christian Huitema
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maint… touch@strayalpha.com
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maint… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maint… Martin Thomson
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maint… Joel Halpern
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maint… touch@strayalpha.com
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maint… Lars Eggert
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maint… BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maint… Martin Thomson
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maint… Tony Li
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maint… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maint… Martin Thomson
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maint… Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maint… touch@strayalpha.com
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maint… Bless, Roland (TM)
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maint… Martin Thomson
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maint… Joel Halpern
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maint… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maint… Joel Halpern
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maint… Martin Thomson
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maint… Joe Touch
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maint… Joe Touch
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maint… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maint… Bless, Roland (TM)
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maint… Bless, Roland (TM)
- Re: [arch-d] [IAB] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol… russ
- Re: [arch-d] [IAB] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maint… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [arch-d] [IAB] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol… Tony Li
- Re: [arch-d] [IAB] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol… Salz, Rich
- Re: [arch-d] [IAB] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol… Lucy Lynch
- Re: [arch-d] [IAB] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol… Dino Farinacci
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maint… Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: [arch-d] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maint… David Schinazi