Re: [art] On BCP 190
Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> Wed, 24 July 2019 12:59 UTC
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From: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
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Subject: Re: [art] On BCP 190
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Indeed. > On 23 Jul 2019, at 11:38 pm, Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> wrote: > > On 7/23/19 18:25, Leif Johansson wrote: >> >> Skickat från min iPhone >> >>> 23 juli 2019 kl. 17:49 skrev Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com>: >>> >>> Leif -- >>> >>> It seems to me, watching this conversation, that you and Mark are talking past each other. While I understand the points he is making, I'm having a hard time following your line of logic given that BCP 190 does, in fact, codify practices that have largely been applied to URI usage in the past (albeit only in an ad-hoc fashion prior to its publication). It's done a pretty reasonable job of keeping protocols from co-opting parts of the URI space so far, and will ostensibly continue to do so into the future. >>> >> I read Mark saying that there are 1000s of APIs that get it wrong. That made me ask if (and if so you you know) BCP190 is actually working. > > > Ah. I'm pretty sure -- and Mark can confirm -- that what he meant to convey by that statement is that he's concerned about the impacts of 1000s of APIs eroding the usable URI namespace in the future if we were to abandon or substantially weaken the constraints outlined in BCP 190. > > /a -- Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/
- [art] On BCP 190 Mark Nottingham
- Re: [art] On BCP 190 Leif Johansson
- Re: [art] On BCP 190 Mark Nottingham
- Re: [art] On BCP 190 Leif Johansson
- Re: [art] On BCP 190 Mark Nottingham
- Re: [art] On BCP 190 Leif Johansson
- Re: [art] On BCP 190 Adam Roach
- Re: [art] On BCP 190 Leif Johansson
- Re: [art] On BCP 190 Adam Roach
- Re: [art] On BCP 190 Mark Nottingham
- Re: [art] On BCP 190 Leif Johansson
- Re: [art] On BCP 190 Mark Nottingham
- Re: [art] On BCP 190 Melinda Shore
- Re: [art] On BCP 190 Leif Johansson
- Re: [art] On BCP 190 Mark Nottingham
- Re: [art] On BCP 190 Melinda Shore
- [art] Is CT single-use origins or not? (Re: On BC… Adam Roach
- Re: [art] Is CT single-use origins or not? (Re: O… Jacob Hoffman-Andrews
- Re: [art] On BCP 190 Jacob Hoffman-Andrews
- Re: [art] Is CT single-use origins or not? (Re: O… Adam Roach
- Re: [art] On BCP 190 Mark Nottingham
- Re: [art] On BCP 190 Jacob Hoffman-Andrews
- Re: [art] On BCP 190 Mark Nottingham
- Re: [art] On BCP 190 Tony Finch
- Re: [art] On BCP 190 Mark Nottingham
- Re: [art] On BCP 190 Tony Finch
- Re: [art] On BCP 190 Jacob Hoffman-Andrews
- Re: [art] On BCP 190 Larry Masinter
- Re: [art] On BCP 190 Carsten Bormann
- Re: [art] On BCP 190 Jacob Hoffman-Andrews
- Re: [art] On BCP 190 Mark Nottingham
- [art] Call for Consensus: Re: On BCP 190 Adam Roach
- Re: [art] On BCP 190 Jacob Hoffman-Andrews
- Re: [art] Call for Consensus: Re: On BCP 190 Carsten Bormann
- Re: [art] Call for Consensus: Re: On BCP 190 Mark Nottingham
- Re: [art] On BCP 190 Stephen Farrell
- Re: [art] Call for Consensus: Re: On BCP 190 Rob Sayre
- Re: [art] On BCP 190 Tony Finch
- Re: [art] Call for Consensus: Re: On BCP 190 Rob Stradling
- Re: [art] Call for Consensus: Re: On BCP 190 Adam Roach
- Re: [art] Call for Consensus: Re: On BCP 190 John C Klensin
- Re: [art] Call for Consensus: Re: On BCP 190 Melinda Shore
- Re: [art] Call for Consensus: Re: On BCP 190 Mark Nottingham
- Re: [art] Call for Consensus: Re: On BCP 190 John C Klensin
- Re: [art] Call for Consensus: Re: On BCP 190 Ben Campbell
- Re: [art] Call for Consensus: Re: On BCP 190 John C Klensin
- Re: [art] Call for Consensus: Re: On BCP 190 Adam Roach
- Re: [art] Call for Consensus: Re: On BCP 190 Adam Roach
- Re: [art] Call for Consensus: Re: On BCP 190 John C Klensin
- Re: [art] Call for Consensus: Re: On BCP 190 Adam Roach
- Re: [art] Call for Consensus: Re: On BCP 190 John C Klensin
- Re: [art] Call for Consensus: Re: On BCP 190 Adam Roach
- Re: [art] Call for Consensus: Re: On BCP 190 Adam Roach
- Re: [art] Call for Consensus: Re: On BCP 190 John C Klensin
- Re: [art] Call for Consensus: Re: On BCP 190 Larry Masinter