Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9521 <draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve-13> for your review
Megan Ferguson <mferguson@amsl.com> Tue, 19 December 2023 18:53 UTC
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Subject: Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9521 <draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve-13> for your review
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Hi Greg, Thanks for the quick feedback. We have updated to your preference. Please refresh to view. RFC Editor/mf > On Dec 19, 2023, at 10:43 AM, Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Megan, > thank you for the proposed changes, they are very helpful. All three options are helpful. Perhaps I like the first option a little more but I can live with any other too. > > Best regards, > Greg > > On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 9:34 AM Megan Ferguson <mferguson@amsl.com> wrote: > Xiao Min and Greg, > > Apologies if we added to the confusion! This has been updated as discussed between the two of you. > However, we feel one of the following further tweaks might make this text easier on the reader: > > Current: > If the BFD packet is received with the value of the Your Discriminator field 0,.. > > Perhaps: > …with the value of the Your Discriminator field set to 0,… > or > …with a Your Discriminator field value of 0,… > or > If the Your Discriminator field of the BFD packet received has a value of 0,... > > Please let us know if one of the above is agreeable. > > The files have been posted here (please refresh): > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521.txt > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521.pdf > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521.html > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521.xml > > The relevant diff files have been posted here (please refresh): > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521-diff.html (comprehensive diff) > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521-auth48diff.html (AUTH48 changes only) > > Please contact us with any further updates/questions/comments you may have. > > We will await approvals from each of the parties listed on the AUTH48 status page prior to moving forward to publication. > > The AUTH48 status page for this document is available here: > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9521 > > Thank you. > > RFC Editor/mf > > > On Dec 18, 2023, at 6:09 PM, xiao.min2@zte.com.cn wrote: > > > > Hi Megan, > > > > > > > > Thank you for the revision. > > > > Considering the one rejected change, I propose one more editorial change as below. > > > > Section #5.1 > > OLD: > > a Your Discriminator equals to 0 > > NEW: > > a Your Discriminator equal to 0 > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Xiao Min > > > > Original > > From: MeganFerguson <mferguson@amsl.com> > > To: 肖敏10093570;Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>; > > Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>;santosh.pallagatti@gmail.com <santosh.pallagatti@gmail.com>;jefftant.ietf@gmail.com <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com>;aldrin.ietf@gmail.com <aldrin.ietf@gmail.com>;nvo3-ads@ietf.org <nvo3-ads@ietf.org>;nvo3-chairs@ietf.org <nvo3-chairs@ietf.org>;matthew.bocci@nokia.com <matthew.bocci@nokia.com>;andrew-ietf@liquid.tech <andrew-ietf@liquid.tech>;auth48archive@rfc-editor.org <auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>; > > Date: 2023年12月19日 05:38 > > Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9521 <draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve-13> for your review > > Xiao and Greg, > > > > Thank you for your replies. We have updated the document as requested with the exception of the following: > > > > > Section #4.1 > > > OLD: > > > a Your Discriminator equal to 0 > > > NEW: > > > a Your Discriminator equals to 0 > > > > > > > > Please review this request as the suggested text introduces a subject/verb agreement error. > > > > We have posted the updated files below. Please review carefully as we do not make updates once the document is published as an RFC. > > > > The files have been posted here (please refresh): > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521.txt > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521.pdf > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521.html > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521.xml > > > > The relevant diff files have been posted here (please refresh): > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521-diff.html (comprehensive diff) > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521-auth48diff.html (AUTH48 changes only) > > > > Please contact us with any further updates/questions/comments you may have. > > > > We will await approvals from each of the parties listed on the AUTH48 status page prior to moving forward to publication. > > > > The AUTH48 status page for this document is available here: > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9521 > > > > Thank you. > > > > RFC Editor/mf > > > > > On Dec 18, 2023, at 1:29 AM, xiao.min2@zte.com.cn wrote: > > > > > > Dear RFC Editor, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your efforts. > > > Please see inline my answers to your questions and several proposed editorial changes. > > > > > > Original > > > From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org> > > > To: 肖敏10093570;gregimirsky@gmail.com <gregimirsky@gmail.com>;santosh.pallagatti@gmail.com <santosh.pallagatti@gmail.com>;jefftant.ietf@gmail.com <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com>;aldrin.ietf@gmail.com <aldrin.ietf@gmail.com>; > > > Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>;nvo3-ads@ietf.org <nvo3-ads@ietf.org>;nvo3-chairs@ietf.org <nvo3-chairs@ietf.org>;matthew.bocci@nokia.com <matthew.bocci@nokia.com>;andrew-ietf@liquid.tech <andrew-ietf@liquid.tech>;auth48archive@rfc-editor.org <auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>; > > > Date: 2023年12月16日 01:10 > > > Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9521 <draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve-13> for your review > > > Authors, > > > > > > While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML file. > > > > > > 1) <!-- [rfced] Please note that the title of the document has been > > > updated as follows: > > > > > > Abbreviations have been expanded per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC > > > Style Guide"). Please review. > > > > > > Original: > > > BFD for Geneve > > > > > > Current: > > > Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD) for Generic Network > > > Virtualization Encapsulation (Geneve) > > > --> > > > [XM]>>> Agreed. > > > > > > 2) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in > > > the title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search. --> > > > [XM]>>> NVE, VAP, VNI. > > > > > > 3) <!--[rfced] For clarity, may we rephrase the run-on sentence below? > > > > > > Original: > > > This document supports establishing multiple BFD sessions between the > > > same pair of NVEs, each BFD session over a pair of VAPs residing in > > > the same pair of NVEs, there SHOULD be a mechanism to control the > > > maximum number of such sessions that can be active at the same time. > > > > > > Perhaps: > > > This document supports establishing multiple BFD sessions between the > > > same pair of NVEs. For each BFD session over a pair of VAPs residing > > > in the same pair of NVEs, there SHOULD be a mechanism to control the > > > maximum number of such sessions that can be active at the same time. > > > --> > > > [XM]>>> Agreed. > > > > > > 4) <!-- [rfced] We see a number of uses of the "/" character separating > > > terms in this document. Please review and let us know if we > > > should adjust any of these instances to "and/or", "and", or "or" > > > for clarity and ease of the reader. > > > --> > > > [XM]>>> I don't see a need to adjust any of them. I believe it's common to say Ethernet/IP/UDP, Ethernet/IP, IP/UDP, etc. > > > > > > 5) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the > > > online Style Guide > > > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language> > > > and let us know if any changes are needed. > > > > > > Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this > > > should still be reviewed as a best practice. > > > --> > > > [XM]>>> I don't see a need for any changes. Thank you for the reminder. > > > > > > > > > [XM]>>> Besides the above answers to your questions, I propose a few editorial changes as below. > > > > > > Section #1 > > > OLD: > > > For simplicity, NVE is used > > > NEW: > > > For simplicity, a NVE is used > > > > > > Section #4 > > > OLD: > > > TTL or Hop Limit: These MUST be set to 255 > > > NEW: > > > TTL or Hop Limit: The TTL for IPv4 or Hop Limit for IPv6 MUST be set to 255 > > > > > > Section #4 > > > OLD: > > > Geneve specification [RFC8926] depending on > > > NEW: > > > Geneve specification ([RFC8926]) depending on > > > > > > Section #4.1 > > > OLD: > > > N-to-1 mapping between a VAP and a VNI > > > NEW: > > > N-to-1 mapping between VAPs and VNIs > > > > > > > > > > > > Section #5 > > > OLD: > > > TTL or Hop Limit: These MUST be set to 255 > > > NEW: > > > TTL or Hop Limit: The TTL for IPv4 or Hop Limit for IPv6 MUST be set to 255 > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > Xiao Min > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > RFC Editor/kf/mf > > > > > > *****IMPORTANT***** > > > > > > Updated 2023/12/15 > > > > > > RFC Author(s): > > > -------------- > > > > > > Instructions for Completing AUTH48 > > > > > > Your document has now entered AUTH48. 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- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9521 <draft-ietf-n… Greg Mirsky
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- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9521 <draft-ietf-n… Megan Ferguson
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9521 <draft-ietf-n… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9521 <draft-ietf-n… Megan Ferguson
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9521 <draft-ietf-n… xiao.min2
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9521 <draft-ietf-n… Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9521 <draft-ietf-n… Megan Ferguson
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9521 <draft-ietf-n… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9521 <draft-ietf-n… Sam Aldrin
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9521 <draft-ietf-n… xiao.min2
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9521 <draft-ietf-n… Megan Ferguson
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9521 <draft-ietf-n… Megan Ferguson
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9521 <draft-ietf-n… Santosh P K