Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9521 <draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve-13> for your review

Megan Ferguson <mferguson@amsl.com> Mon, 08 January 2024 17:37 UTC

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Sorry, Santosh!

I overlooked your line - NOW we have all approvals.

Thank you for the prompt response!

RFC Editor/mf


> On Jan 8, 2024, at 10:34 AM, Santosh P K <santosh.pallagatti@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I approve the changes. Sorry for delayed reply. 
> 
> Thanks 
> Santosh P K 
> 
> On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 at 10:42 PM, Megan Ferguson <mferguson@amsl.com> wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> We have received all necessary approvals and are ready to move this document forward in the publication process at this time.
> 
> The AUTH48 status page of this document is available at http://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9521.
> 
> Thank you for your time and attention during AUTH48.
> 
> RFC Editor/mf
> 
> 
> > On Jan 7, 2024, at 7:15 PM, xiao.min2@zte.com.cn wrote:
> > 
> > I approve the changes as well.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Best Regards,
> > 
> > Xiao Min
> > 
> > Original
> > From: SamAldrin <aldrin.ietf@gmail.com>
> > To: Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>;
> > Cc: Megan Ferguson <mferguson@amsl.com>;Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com>;肖敏10093570;Santosh P K <santosh.pallagatti@gmail.com>;rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>;nvo3-ads@ietf.org <nvo3-ads@ietf.org>;nvo3-chairs@ietf.org <nvo3-chairs@ietf.org>;matthew.bocci@nokia.com <matthew.bocci@nokia.com>;andrew-ietf@liquid.tech <andrew-ietf@liquid.tech>;auth48archive@rfc-editor.org <auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>;
> > Date: 2024年01月03日 02:46
> > Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9521 <draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve-13> for your review
> > Approve from my side as well.
> > 
> > Sam
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On Jan 2, 2024, at 9:55 AM, Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Hi Megan,
> >> thank you for your kind reminder. Please note that I also approve all the proposed changes.
> >> 
> >> Best wishes for a happy New Year!
> >> 
> >> Regards,
> >> Greg
> >> 
> >> On Tue, Jan 2, 2024 at 9:49 AM Megan Ferguson <mferguson@amsl.com> wrote:
> >> Jeff,
> >> 
> >> Apologies for the delayed reply.  We have updated the AUTH48 status page to reflect your
> >> approval.  
> >> 
> >> Please note that we will assume your assent to any further changes submitted
> >> by your coauthors unless we hear otherwise at that time.
> >> 
> >> The AUTH48 status page is viewable at:
> >> 
> >> http://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9521
> >> 
> >> Thank you.
> >> 
> >> RFC Editor/mf
> >> 
> >> 
> >> > On Dec 19, 2023, at 7:20 PM, Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > 
> >> > Hi Megan,
> >> > 
> >> > I approve the changes.
> >> > 
> >> > Cheers,
> >> > Jeff
> >> > 
> >> >> On Dec 19, 2023, at 18:04, xiao.min2@zte.com.cn wrote:
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> Hi Megan,
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> Thank you for the proposed tweaks.
> >> >> 
> >> >> I'm fine with all the three options, and I prefer the first one.
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> 
> >> >> Xiao Min
> >> >> 
> >> >> Original
> >> >> From: MeganFerguson <mferguson@amsl.com>
> >> >> To: 肖敏10093570;Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>;
> >> >> Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>;Santosh P K <santosh.pallagatti@gmail.com>;jefftant.ietf@gmail.com <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com>;aldrin.ietf@gmail.com <aldrin.ietf@gmail.com>;nvo3-ads@ietf.org <nvo3-ads@ietf.org>;nvo3-chairs@ietf.org <nvo3-chairs@ietf.org>;matthew.bocci@nokia.com <matthew.bocci@nokia.com>;andrew-ietf@liquid.tech <andrew-ietf@liquid.tech>;auth48archive@rfc-editor.org <auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>;
> >> >> Date: 2023年12月20日 01:35
> >> >> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9521 <draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve-13> for your review
> >> >> Xiao Min and Greg,
> >> >> 
> >> >> Apologies if we added to the confusion!  This has been updated as discussed between the two of you.
> >> >> However, we feel one of the following further tweaks might make this text easier on the reader:
> >> >> 
> >> >> Current:
> >> >> If the BFD packet is received with the value of the Your Discriminator field 0,.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Perhaps:
> >> >> …with the value of the Your Discriminator field set to 0,…
> >> >> or
> >> >> …with a Your Discriminator field value of 0,…
> >> >> or
> >> >> If the Your Discriminator field of the BFD packet received has a value of 0,...
> >> >> 
> >> >> Please let us know if one of the above is agreeable.
> >> >> 
> >> >> The files have been posted here (please refresh):
> >> >>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521.txt
> >> >>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521.pdf
> >> >>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521.html
> >> >>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521.xml
> >> >>    
> >> >> The relevant diff files have been posted here (please refresh):
> >> >>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521-diff.html (comprehensive diff)
> >> >>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521-auth48diff.html (AUTH48 changes only)
> >> >> 
> >> >> Please contact us with any further updates/questions/comments you may have.    
> >> >> 
> >> >> We will await approvals from each of the parties listed on the AUTH48 status page prior to moving forward to publication.    
> >> >> 
> >> >> The AUTH48 status page for this document is available here:
> >> >> 
> >> >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9521
> >> >> 
> >> >> Thank you.
> >> >> 
> >> >> RFC Editor/mf
> >> >> 
> >> >> > On Dec 18, 2023, at 6:09 PM, xiao.min2@zte.com.cn wrote:
> >> >> >  
> >> >> > Hi Megan,
> >> >> >  
> >> >> >  
> >> >> >  
> >> >> > Thank you for the revision.
> >> >> >  
> >> >> > Considering the one rejected change, I propose one more editorial change as below.
> >> >> >  
> >> >> > Section #5.1
> >> >> > OLD:
> >> >> > a Your Discriminator equals to 0
> >> >> > NEW:
> >> >> > a Your Discriminator equal to 0
> >> >> >  
> >> >> >  
> >> >> >  
> >> >> > Cheers,
> >> >> >  
> >> >> > Xiao Min
> >> >> >  
> >> >> > Original
> >> >> > From: MeganFerguson <mferguson@amsl.com> 
> >> >> > To: 肖敏10093570;Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>;
> >> >> > Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>;santosh.pallagatti@gmail.com <santosh.pallagatti@gmail.com>;jefftant.ietf@gmail.com <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com>;aldrin.ietf@gmail.com <aldrin.ietf@gmail.com>;nvo3-ads@ietf.org <nvo3-ads@ietf.org>;nvo3-chairs@ietf.org <nvo3-chairs@ietf.org>;matthew.bocci@nokia.com <matthew.bocci@nokia.com>;andrew-ietf@liquid.tech <andrew-ietf@liquid.tech>;auth48archive@rfc-editor.org <auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>;
> >> >> > Date: 2023年12月19日 05:38
> >> >> > Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9521 <draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve-13> for your review
> >> >> > Xiao and Greg,
> >> >> >  
> >> >> > Thank you for your replies. We have updated the document as requested with the exception of the following:
> >> >> >  
> >> >> > > Section #4.1
> >> >> > > OLD:
> >> >> > > a Your Discriminator equal to 0
> >> >> > > NEW:
> >> >> > > a Your Discriminator equals to 0
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > Please review this request as the suggested text introduces a subject/verb agreement error.
> >> >> >  
> >> >> > We have posted the updated files below.  Please review carefully as we do not make updates once the document is published as an RFC.
> >> >> >  
> >> >> > The files have been posted here (please refresh):
> >> >> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521.txt
> >> >> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521.pdf
> >> >> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521.html
> >> >> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521.xml
> >> >> >    
> >> >> > The relevant diff files have been posted here (please refresh):
> >> >> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521-diff.html (comprehensive diff)
> >> >> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521-auth48diff.html (AUTH48 changes only)
> >> >> >  
> >> >> > Please contact us with any further updates/questions/comments you may have.    
> >> >> >  
> >> >> > We will await approvals from each of the parties listed on the AUTH48 status page prior to moving forward to publication.    
> >> >> >  
> >> >> > The AUTH48 status page for this document is available here:
> >> >> >  
> >> >> > https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9521
> >> >> >  
> >> >> > Thank you.
> >> >> >  
> >> >> > RFC Editor/mf
> >> >> >  
> >> >> > > On Dec 18, 2023, at 1:29 AM, xiao.min2@zte.com.cn wrote:
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > > Dear RFC Editor,
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > > Thanks for your efforts.
> >> >> > > Please see inline my answers to your questions and several proposed editorial changes.
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > > Original
> >> >> > > From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>  
> >> >> > > To: 肖敏10093570;gregimirsky@gmail.com <gregimirsky@gmail.com>;santosh.pallagatti@gmail.com <santosh.pallagatti@gmail.com>;jefftant.ietf@gmail.com <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com>;aldrin.ietf@gmail.com <aldrin.ietf@gmail.com>;
> >> >> > > Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>;nvo3-ads@ietf.org <nvo3-ads@ietf.org>;nvo3-chairs@ietf.org <nvo3-chairs@ietf.org>;matthew.bocci@nokia.com <matthew.bocci@nokia.com>;andrew-ietf@liquid.tech <andrew-ietf@liquid.tech>;auth48archive@rfc-editor.org <auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>;
> >> >> > > Date: 2023年12月16日 01:10
> >> >> > > Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9521 <draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve-13> for your review
> >> >> > > Authors,
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > > While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML file.
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > > 1) <!-- [rfced] Please note that the title of the document has been
> >> >> > >      updated as follows:
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > > Abbreviations have been expanded per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC
> >> >> > > Style Guide"). Please review.
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > > Original:
> >> >> > > BFD for Geneve
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > > Current:
> >> >> > > Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD) for Generic Network
> >> >> > > Virtualization Encapsulation (Geneve)
> >> >> > > -->   
> >> >> > > [XM]>>> Agreed.
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > > 2) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in
> >> >> > >      the title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search. -->   
> >> >> > > [XM]>>> NVE, VAP, VNI.
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > > 3) <!--[rfced] For clarity, may we rephrase the run-on sentence below?
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > > Original:    
> >> >> > > This document supports establishing multiple BFD sessions between the
> >> >> > > same pair of NVEs, each BFD session over a pair of VAPs residing in
> >> >> > > the same pair of NVEs, there SHOULD be a mechanism to control the
> >> >> > > maximum number of such sessions that can be active at the same time.
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > > Perhaps:
> >> >> > > This document supports establishing multiple BFD sessions between the
> >> >> > > same pair of NVEs.  For each BFD session over a pair of VAPs residing
> >> >> > > in the same pair of NVEs, there SHOULD be a mechanism to control the
> >> >> > > maximum number of such sessions that can be active at the same time.
> >> >> > > -->   
> >> >> > > [XM]>>> Agreed.
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > > 4) <!-- [rfced] We see a number of uses of the "/" character separating
> >> >> > >      terms in this document.  Please review and let us know if we
> >> >> > >      should adjust any of these instances to "and/or", "and", or "or"   
> >> >> > >      for clarity and ease of the reader.
> >> >> > > -->   
> >> >> > > [XM]>>> I don't see a need to adjust any of them. I believe it's common to say Ethernet/IP/UDP, Ethernet/IP, IP/UDP, etc.
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > > 5) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the
> >> >> > >      online Style Guide
> >> >> > >      <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language>   
> >> >> > >      and let us know if any changes are needed.
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > > Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this
> >> >> > > should still be reviewed as a best practice.
> >> >> > > -->   
> >> >> > > [XM]>>> I don't see a need for any changes. Thank you for the reminder.
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > > [XM]>>> Besides the above answers to your questions, I propose a few editorial changes as below.
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > > Section #1
> >> >> > > OLD:
> >> >> > > For simplicity, NVE is used
> >> >> > > NEW:
> >> >> > > For simplicity, a NVE is used
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > > Section #4
> >> >> > > OLD:
> >> >> > > TTL or Hop Limit:  These MUST be set to 255
> >> >> > > NEW:
> >> >> > > TTL or Hop Limit:  The TTL for IPv4 or Hop Limit for IPv6 MUST be set to 255
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > > Section #4
> >> >> > > OLD:
> >> >> > > Geneve specification [RFC8926] depending on
> >> >> > > NEW:
> >> >> > > Geneve specification ([RFC8926]) depending on
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > > Section #4.1
> >> >> > > OLD:
> >> >> > > N-to-1 mapping between a VAP and a VNI
> >> >> > > NEW:
> >> >> > > N-to-1 mapping between VAPs and VNIs
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > > Section #5
> >> >> > > OLD:
> >> >> > > TTL or Hop Limit:  These MUST be set to 255
> >> >> > > NEW:
> >> >> > > TTL or Hop Limit:  The TTL for IPv4 or Hop Limit for IPv6 MUST be set to 255
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > > Best Regards,
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > > Xiao Min
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > > Thank you.
> >> >> > >   
> >> >> > > RFC Editor/kf/mf
> >> >> > >   
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> >> >> > > RFC9521 (draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve-13)
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> >> >> > > Title            : BFD for Geneve
> >> >> > > Author(s)        : X. Min, G. Mirsky, S. Pallagatti, J. Tantsura, S. Aldrin
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