Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9521 <draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve-13> for your review

Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> Tue, 19 December 2023 17:43 UTC

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Subject: Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9521 <draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve-13> for your review
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Hi Megan,
thank you for the proposed changes, they are very helpful. All three
options are helpful. Perhaps I like the first option a little more but I
can live with any other too.

Best regards,
Greg

On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 9:34 AM Megan Ferguson <mferguson@amsl.com> wrote:

> Xiao Min and Greg,
>
> Apologies if we added to the confusion!  This has been updated as
> discussed between the two of you.
> However, we feel one of the following further tweaks might make this text
> easier on the reader:
>
> Current:
> If the BFD packet is received with the value of the Your Discriminator
> field 0,..
>
> Perhaps:
> …with the value of the Your Discriminator field set to 0,…
> or
> …with a Your Discriminator field value of 0,…
> or
> If the Your Discriminator field of the BFD packet received has a value of
> 0,...
>
> Please let us know if one of the above is agreeable.
>
> The files have been posted here (please refresh):
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521.txt
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521.pdf
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521.html
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521.xml
>
> The relevant diff files have been posted here (please refresh):
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521-diff.html (comprehensive
> diff)
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521-auth48diff.html (AUTH48
> changes only)
>
> Please contact us with any further updates/questions/comments you may
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> We will await approvals from each of the parties listed on the AUTH48
> status page prior to moving forward to publication.
>
> The AUTH48 status page for this document is available here:
>
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9521
>
> Thank you.
>
> RFC Editor/mf
>
> > On Dec 18, 2023, at 6:09 PM, xiao.min2@zte.com.cn wrote:
> >
> > Hi Megan,
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you for the revision.
> >
> > Considering the one rejected change, I propose one more editorial change
> as below.
> >
> > Section #5.1
> > OLD:
> > a Your Discriminator equals to 0
> > NEW:
> > a Your Discriminator equal to 0
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Xiao Min
> >
> > Original
> > From: MeganFerguson <mferguson@amsl.com>
> > To: 肖敏10093570;Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>;
> > Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>;
> santosh.pallagatti@gmail.com <santosh.pallagatti@gmail.com>;
> jefftant.ietf@gmail.com <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com>;aldrin.ietf@gmail.com <
> aldrin.ietf@gmail.com>;nvo3-ads@ietf.org <nvo3-ads@ietf.org>;
> nvo3-chairs@ietf.org <nvo3-chairs@ietf.org>;matthew.bocci@nokia.com <
> matthew.bocci@nokia.com>;andrew-ietf@liquid.tech <andrew-ietf@liquid.tech
> >;auth48archive@rfc-editor.org <auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>;
> > Date: 2023年12月19日 05:38
> > Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9521 <draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve-13> for
> your review
> > Xiao and Greg,
> >
> > Thank you for your replies. We have updated the document as requested
> with the exception of the following:
> >
> > > Section #4.1
> > > OLD:
> > > a Your Discriminator equal to 0
> > > NEW:
> > > a Your Discriminator equals to 0
> > >
> > >
> > Please review this request as the suggested text introduces a
> subject/verb agreement error.
> >
> > We have posted the updated files below.  Please review carefully as we
> do not make updates once the document is published as an RFC.
> >
> > The files have been posted here (please refresh):
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521.txt
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521.pdf
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521.html
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521.xml
> >
> > The relevant diff files have been posted here (please refresh):
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521-diff.html (comprehensive
> diff)
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521-auth48diff.html (AUTH48
> changes only)
> >
> > Please contact us with any further updates/questions/comments you may
> have.
> >
> > We will await approvals from each of the parties listed on the AUTH48
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> >
> > The AUTH48 status page for this document is available here:
> >
> > https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9521
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > RFC Editor/mf
> >
> > > On Dec 18, 2023, at 1:29 AM, xiao.min2@zte.com.cn wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear RFC Editor,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for your efforts.
> > > Please see inline my answers to your questions and several proposed
> editorial changes.
> > >
> > > Original
> > > From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>
> > > To: 肖敏10093570;gregimirsky@gmail.com <gregimirsky@gmail.com>;
> santosh.pallagatti@gmail.com <santosh.pallagatti@gmail.com>;
> jefftant.ietf@gmail.com <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com>;aldrin.ietf@gmail.com <
> aldrin.ietf@gmail.com>;
> > > Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>;
> nvo3-ads@ietf.org <nvo3-ads@ietf.org>;nvo3-chairs@ietf.org <
> nvo3-chairs@ietf.org>;matthew.bocci@nokia.com <matthew.bocci@nokia.com
> >;andrew-ietf@liquid.tech <andrew-ietf@liquid.tech>;
> auth48archive@rfc-editor.org <auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>;
> > > Date: 2023年12月16日 01:10
> > > Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9521 <draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve-13>
> for your review
> > > Authors,
> > >
> > > While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as
> necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML file.
> > >
> > > 1) <!-- [rfced] Please note that the title of the document has been
> > >      updated as follows:
> > >
> > > Abbreviations have been expanded per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC
> > > Style Guide"). Please review.
> > >
> > > Original:
> > > BFD for Geneve
> > >
> > > Current:
> > > Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD) for Generic Network
> > > Virtualization Encapsulation (Geneve)
> > > -->
> > > [XM]>>> Agreed.
> > >
> > > 2) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in
> > >      the title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search. -->
> > > [XM]>>> NVE, VAP, VNI.
> > >
> > > 3) <!--[rfced] For clarity, may we rephrase the run-on sentence below?
> > >
> > > Original:
> > > This document supports establishing multiple BFD sessions between the
> > > same pair of NVEs, each BFD session over a pair of VAPs residing in
> > > the same pair of NVEs, there SHOULD be a mechanism to control the
> > > maximum number of such sessions that can be active at the same time.
> > >
> > > Perhaps:
> > > This document supports establishing multiple BFD sessions between the
> > > same pair of NVEs.  For each BFD session over a pair of VAPs residing
> > > in the same pair of NVEs, there SHOULD be a mechanism to control the
> > > maximum number of such sessions that can be active at the same time.
> > > -->
> > > [XM]>>> Agreed.
> > >
> > > 4) <!-- [rfced] We see a number of uses of the "/" character separating
> > >      terms in this document.  Please review and let us know if we
> > >      should adjust any of these instances to "and/or", "and", or "or"
> > >      for clarity and ease of the reader.
> > > -->
> > > [XM]>>> I don't see a need to adjust any of them. I believe it's
> common to say Ethernet/IP/UDP, Ethernet/IP, IP/UDP, etc.
> > >
> > > 5) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the
> > >      online Style Guide
> > >      <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language>
>
> > >      and let us know if any changes are needed.
> > >
> > > Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this
> > > should still be reviewed as a best practice.
> > > -->
> > > [XM]>>> I don't see a need for any changes. Thank you for the reminder.
> > >
> > >
> > > [XM]>>> Besides the above answers to your questions, I propose a few
> editorial changes as below.
> > >
> > > Section #1
> > > OLD:
> > > For simplicity, NVE is used
> > > NEW:
> > > For simplicity, a NVE is used
> > >
> > > Section #4
> > > OLD:
> > > TTL or Hop Limit:  These MUST be set to 255
> > > NEW:
> > > TTL or Hop Limit:  The TTL for IPv4 or Hop Limit for IPv6 MUST be set
> to 255
> > >
> > > Section #4
> > > OLD:
> > > Geneve specification [RFC8926] depending on
> > > NEW:
> > > Geneve specification ([RFC8926]) depending on
> > >
> > > Section #4.1
> > > OLD:
> > > N-to-1 mapping between a VAP and a VNI
> > > NEW:
> > > N-to-1 mapping between VAPs and VNIs
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Section #5
> > > OLD:
> > > TTL or Hop Limit:  These MUST be set to 255
> > > NEW:
> > > TTL or Hop Limit:  The TTL for IPv4 or Hop Limit for IPv6 MUST be set
> to 255
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > >
> > > Xiao Min
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > RFC Editor/kf/mf
> > >
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> > > --------------------------------------
> > > RFC9521 (draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve-13)
> > >
> > > Title            : BFD for Geneve
> > > Author(s)        : X. Min, G. Mirsky, S. Pallagatti, J. Tantsura, S.
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> > > WG Chair(s)      : Matthew Bocci, Sam Aldrin
> > > Area Director(s) : Alvaro Retana, John Scudder, Andrew Alston
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