Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9521 <draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve-13> for your review

Megan Ferguson <mferguson@amsl.com> Tue, 19 December 2023 17:34 UTC

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Subject: Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9521 <draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve-13> for your review
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Xiao Min and Greg,

Apologies if we added to the confusion!  This has been updated as discussed between the two of you.
However, we feel one of the following further tweaks might make this text easier on the reader:

Current:
If the BFD packet is received with the value of the Your Discriminator field 0,..

Perhaps:
…with the value of the Your Discriminator field set to 0,…
or
…with a Your Discriminator field value of 0,…
or
If the Your Discriminator field of the BFD packet received has a value of 0,...

Please let us know if one of the above is agreeable.

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Thank you.

RFC Editor/mf

> On Dec 18, 2023, at 6:09 PM, xiao.min2@zte.com.cn wrote:
> 
> Hi Megan,
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you for the revision.
> 
> Considering the one rejected change, I propose one more editorial change as below.
> 
> Section #5.1
> OLD:
> a Your Discriminator equals to 0
> NEW:
> a Your Discriminator equal to 0
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Xiao Min
> 
> Original
> From: MeganFerguson <mferguson@amsl.com>
> To: 肖敏10093570;Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>;
> Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>;santosh.pallagatti@gmail.com <santosh.pallagatti@gmail.com>;jefftant.ietf@gmail.com <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com>;aldrin.ietf@gmail.com <aldrin.ietf@gmail.com>;nvo3-ads@ietf.org <nvo3-ads@ietf.org>;nvo3-chairs@ietf.org <nvo3-chairs@ietf.org>;matthew.bocci@nokia.com <matthew.bocci@nokia.com>;andrew-ietf@liquid.tech <andrew-ietf@liquid.tech>;auth48archive@rfc-editor.org <auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>;
> Date: 2023年12月19日 05:38
> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9521 <draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve-13> for your review
> Xiao and Greg,
> 
> Thank you for your replies. We have updated the document as requested with the exception of the following:
> 
> > Section #4.1
> > OLD:
> > a Your Discriminator equal to 0
> > NEW:
> > a Your Discriminator equals to 0
> >  
> >  
> Please review this request as the suggested text introduces a subject/verb agreement error.
> 
> We have posted the updated files below.  Please review carefully as we do not make updates once the document is published as an RFC.
> 
> The files have been posted here (please refresh):
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>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521.pdf
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521.html
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521.xml
>   
> The relevant diff files have been posted here (please refresh):
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521-diff.html (comprehensive diff)
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9521-auth48diff.html (AUTH48 changes only)
> 
> Please contact us with any further updates/questions/comments you may have.   
> 
> We will await approvals from each of the parties listed on the AUTH48 status page prior to moving forward to publication.   
> 
> The AUTH48 status page for this document is available here:
> 
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9521
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> RFC Editor/mf
> 
> > On Dec 18, 2023, at 1:29 AM, xiao.min2@zte.com.cn wrote:
> >  
> > Dear RFC Editor,
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > Thanks for your efforts.
> > Please see inline my answers to your questions and several proposed editorial changes.
> >  
> > Original
> > From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org> 
> > To: 肖敏10093570;gregimirsky@gmail.com <gregimirsky@gmail.com>;santosh.pallagatti@gmail.com <santosh.pallagatti@gmail.com>;jefftant.ietf@gmail.com <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com>;aldrin.ietf@gmail.com <aldrin.ietf@gmail.com>;
> > Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>;nvo3-ads@ietf.org <nvo3-ads@ietf.org>;nvo3-chairs@ietf.org <nvo3-chairs@ietf.org>;matthew.bocci@nokia.com <matthew.bocci@nokia.com>;andrew-ietf@liquid.tech <andrew-ietf@liquid.tech>;auth48archive@rfc-editor.org <auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>;
> > Date: 2023年12月16日 01:10
> > Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9521 <draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve-13> for your review
> > Authors,
> >  
> > While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML file.
> >  
> > 1) <!-- [rfced] Please note that the title of the document has been
> >      updated as follows:
> >  
> > Abbreviations have been expanded per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC
> > Style Guide"). Please review.
> >  
> > Original:
> > BFD for Geneve
> >  
> > Current:
> > Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD) for Generic Network
> > Virtualization Encapsulation (Geneve)
> > -->  
> > [XM]>>> Agreed.
> >  
> > 2) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in
> >      the title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search. -->  
> > [XM]>>> NVE, VAP, VNI.
> >  
> > 3) <!--[rfced] For clarity, may we rephrase the run-on sentence below?
> >  
> > Original:   
> > This document supports establishing multiple BFD sessions between the
> > same pair of NVEs, each BFD session over a pair of VAPs residing in
> > the same pair of NVEs, there SHOULD be a mechanism to control the
> > maximum number of such sessions that can be active at the same time.
> >  
> > Perhaps:
> > This document supports establishing multiple BFD sessions between the
> > same pair of NVEs.  For each BFD session over a pair of VAPs residing
> > in the same pair of NVEs, there SHOULD be a mechanism to control the
> > maximum number of such sessions that can be active at the same time.
> > -->  
> > [XM]>>> Agreed.
> >  
> > 4) <!-- [rfced] We see a number of uses of the "/" character separating
> >      terms in this document.  Please review and let us know if we
> >      should adjust any of these instances to "and/or", "and", or "or"  
> >      for clarity and ease of the reader.
> > -->  
> > [XM]>>> I don't see a need to adjust any of them. I believe it's common to say Ethernet/IP/UDP, Ethernet/IP, IP/UDP, etc.
> >  
> > 5) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the
> >      online Style Guide
> >      <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language>  
> >      and let us know if any changes are needed.
> >  
> > Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this
> > should still be reviewed as a best practice.
> > -->  
> > [XM]>>> I don't see a need for any changes. Thank you for the reminder.
> >  
> >  
> > [XM]>>> Besides the above answers to your questions, I propose a few editorial changes as below.
> >  
> > Section #1
> > OLD:
> > For simplicity, NVE is used
> > NEW:
> > For simplicity, a NVE is used
> >  
> > Section #4
> > OLD:
> > TTL or Hop Limit:  These MUST be set to 255
> > NEW:
> > TTL or Hop Limit:  The TTL for IPv4 or Hop Limit for IPv6 MUST be set to 255
> >  
> > Section #4
> > OLD:
> > Geneve specification [RFC8926] depending on
> > NEW:
> > Geneve specification ([RFC8926]) depending on
> >  
> > Section #4.1
> > OLD:
> > N-to-1 mapping between a VAP and a VNI
> > NEW:
> > N-to-1 mapping between VAPs and VNIs
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > Section #5
> > OLD:
> > TTL or Hop Limit:  These MUST be set to 255
> > NEW:
> > TTL or Hop Limit:  The TTL for IPv4 or Hop Limit for IPv6 MUST be set to 255
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > Best Regards,
> >  
> > Xiao Min
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > Thank you.
> >  
> > RFC Editor/kf/mf
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> > RFC9521 (draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve-13)
> >  
> > Title            : BFD for Geneve
> > Author(s)        : X. Min, G. Mirsky, S. Pallagatti, J. Tantsura, S. Aldrin
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