Re: [Autoconf] updated draft on aspects of multi-hop wireless communication

Thomas Heide Clausen <ietf@thomasclausen.org> Mon, 23 February 2009 23:20 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Autoconf] updated draft on aspects of multi-hop wireless communication
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Hello Alex,

To second Charlie here: in MANETs, routers:

	o	ALWAYS have one MANET interface.
	o	OFTEN they have other (non-MANET) interfaces
	o	OCCASIONALLY have more than one MANET interface

I.e. it is quite common for traffic to be forwarded over the same  
interface as the one on which it was received.

Thomas

ps: and for the record, AFAIK all MANET wg routing protocols support  
all the situations listed above, i.e. a MANET router with a single or  
with multiple MANET interfaces and with or without other non-MANET  
interfaces.

On 23Feb , 2009, at 23:01 , Charles E. Perkins wrote:

>
> Hello Alex,
>
> On this point I disagree.  I think it is better to show the
> routers with a single network interface -- which is what
> they have in real life.  This is also the reason that techniques
> like split horizon aren't appropriate.
>
> Regards,
> Charlie P.
>
>
> Alexandru Petrescu wrote:
>> Emmanuel, AUTOCONFers,
>>
>> Just a short clarifying point: I think it would be clarifying to
>> illustrate the routers to have two interfaces.  Routers with only one
>> interface aren't very typical.
>>
>> Just a note,
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> Emmanuel Baccelli a écrit :
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>>
>>> following the fruitful discussions about initial version of the  
>>> document, here is an update to the draft describing aspects of
>>> multi-hop wireless communication:
>>>
>>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-baccelli-multi-hop- 
>>> wireless-communication-01.txt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Again, the goal of this document is to identify a consensus about
>>> this topic, and then use this to move on quicker with the rest of  
>>> the
>>> work...
>>>
>>> Please review it, and provide feedback as soon as possible.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Emmanuel
>>>
>>>
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