Re: [bmwg] WG Adoption Call for draft-vassilev-bmwg-network-interconnect-tester-07

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Subject: Re: [bmwg] WG Adoption Call for draft-vassilev-bmwg-network-interconnect-tester-07
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On 14/12/2021 23:31, Vladimir Vassilev wrote:
> On 14/12/2021 10.33, t petch wrote:
>
>> On 13/12/2021 17:46, Vladimir Vassilev wrote:
>>> Hi Tom and Gabor,
>>>
>>>
>>> On 13/12/2021 13.08, Gábor LENCSE wrote:
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> To be honest, I haven't read the draft.
>>>>
>>>> I just wonder, if the entire draft is about CSMA/CD. As time passes,
>>>> Ethernet is practically used full duplex, so I think it should be of
>>>> primary interest.
>>>
>>> The draft is not about CSMA/CD in particular. It is targeting any
>>> networking technology where the data plane in any of the interface
>>> directions can be represented as a stream of octets. And where the
>>> stream of octets consists of a sequence of 1. frames and 2. interframe
>>> gaps.
>>
>> I continue to oppose adoption until the I-D has a less clunky and more
>> accurate title.
>>
>> Reading YANG modules in the I-D, it is clear that the focus is on such
>> as IEEE802, IEEE1588, MAC address, Ethernet, burst, interframe gap etc
>> so while the approach is valid for a number of protocols there are
>> plenty more for which it is invalid.
>
>
> But this argument is also valid for RFC2544 among many other non-BMWG
> documents (RFC8519 ... , etc.) This draft has the same requirements for
> the network interface technologies it is applicable for as RFC2544 has.
> It is for packet-switched network interfaces only indeed.
>
>> That limitation should be reflected in the title.
>
> Do you agree this is the same limitation RFC2544 fails to reflect in its
> title?

As an aside, I don't care about RFC2544; historically there are a lot of 
RFC with bad bits in them and with the possible exception of a -bis, 
there is no reason not to look for an improvement.

I find the title of this I-D clunky and want that fixed.  I do not have 
the same problem with the title of RFC2544.


Tom Petch



>
>
> /Vladimir
>
>
>>
>> Tom Petch
>>
>>> While not spelled out this is also true for RFC2544.
>>>
>>>
>>> /Vladimir
>>>
> .
>