Re: [CCAMP] [Inventory-yang] [inventory-yang] poll for network inventory base model

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Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [Inventory-yang] [inventory-yang] poll for network inventory base model
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Hello

My vote is for option 1. to adopt draft-ietf-ccamp-network-inventory-yang-02 in IVY.

I share the rationale to include its existing synergies with topology models.

Thanks
Luis

De : Inventory-yang <inventory-yang-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:inventory-yang-bounces@ietf.org>> De la part de maqiufang (A) Envoy? : lundi 28 ao?t 2023 08:22 ? : inventory-yang@ietf.org<mailto:inventory-yang@ietf.org>
Cc : ivy-chairs@ietf.org<mailto:ivy-chairs@ietf.org>; opsawg <opsawg@ietf.org<mailto:opsawg@ietf.org>>; ccamp@ietf.org<mailto:ccamp@ietf.org>
Objet : [Inventory-yang] [inventory-yang] poll for network inventory base model

Hi Working Group,

It?s now time to start considering how to move forward with the inventory base model. We have two different documents that could be used as a starting point for our work or, in case the working group believes none of them is ?good enough?, we can start a brand new ID.
In case the latter option is chosen, Daniele and I will write a -00 version including just the table of content and what we?d like to be covered in each section. The document will then be handed over to a pool of authors which will bring it till the WG adoption.

Hence, we will have a 3 weeks polling starting today. We decided to make it a bit longer than usual because this time the working group is requested to review two drafts instead of one.

This mail starts a 3 weeks polling, terminating on September 15th,  where we would like the working group to express your preference among:


  1.  Adopt  draft-ietf-ccamp-network-inventory-yang-02 in IVY and evolve it to become the network inventory base model
  2.  Adopt draft-wzwb-opsawg-network-inventory-management-03 in IVY and evolve it to become the network inventory base model
  3.  Start a brand new document from scratch as described above

In the week after the closure of the polling (between September 18 and 25) we will have an IVY interim meeting to discuss the issues/concerns raised during the polling ( A separate mail will be sent).

Thank you,

Qiufang and Daniele


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2023 01:05:23 +0000
From: Tianran Zhou <zhoutianran@huawei.com>
To: Tianran Zhou <zhoutianran=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org>,
        "opsawg@ietf.org" <opsawg@ietf.org>
Cc: "opsawg-chairs@ietf.org" <opsawg-chairs@ietf.org>
Subject: [OPSAWG] Conclusion//RE: IPR poll for
        draft-ma-opsawg-ucl-acl-03
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Hi WG,

We collected replies from all the authors.
All the authors are not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. And there is no question in the mailing list.
So we will proceed.

Best,
Tianran


From: OPSAWG [mailto:opsawg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tianran Zhou
Sent: Friday, September 1, 2023 3:51 PM
To: opsawg@ietf.org
Cc: opsawg-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: [OPSAWG] IPR poll for draft-ma-opsawg-ucl-acl-03

Hi WG,

According to the decision from IETF117, we are going to run the working group adoption call for draft-ma-opsawg-ucl-acl-03.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ma-opsawg-ucl-acl/

Ahead the adoption call, we'd like to poll for known IPR.

Authors and contributors please respond to the mailing list whether or not you are aware of any IPR that pertains to this work.

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"
or
"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

If you are aware of IPR, indicate whether or not this has been disclosed per IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3669, 5378, and 8179).

Cheers,
Tianran
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2023 01:12:48 +0000
From: Tianran Zhou <zhoutianran@huawei.com>
To: "opsawg@ietf.org" <opsawg@ietf.org>
Cc: "opsawg-chairs@ietf.org" <opsawg-chairs@ietf.org>
Subject: [OPSAWG] Working group adoption call for
        draft-ma-opsawg-ucl-acl-03
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Hi WG,

This mail starts a two weeks working group adoption call for draft-ma-opsawg-ucl-acl-03
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ma-opsawg-ucl-acl/

Please send over your objections or supports to the mailing list.
If you object the adoption, please also give the reason, so that the authors can improve.
We will conclude this adoption call on Sep 20, 2023.
All your comments are welcome.

Best,
Tianran
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2023 10:22:46 +0200
From: "Roberto Manzotti" <manzoro.ietf@gmail.com>
To: "'Dieter Beller \(Nokia\)'" <Dieter.Beller@nokia.com>,
        <ivy-chairs@ietf.org>
Cc: "'opsawg'" <opsawg@ietf.org>, <ccamp@ietf.org>,
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Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] [Inventory-yang] [CCAMP] [inventory-yang] poll
        for network inventory base model
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Hi Qiufang, Daniele and all,



I also prefer option 1. to adopt draft-ietf-ccamp-network-inventory-yang-02 in IVY, since I agree on the clear separation between inventory and  operational and topology data, and also the consistence with other established standards.

At the same time, I second also other comment in the thread for the incorporation of the Software, License, and Virtual object inventory in it by reusing part of the work in draft-wzwb-opsawg-network-inventory-management-03.



Best Regards

Roberto Manzotti







From: Inventory-yang <inventory-yang-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Dieter Beller (Nokia)
Sent: Monday, September 4, 2023 6:37 PM
To: ivy-chairs@ietf.org
Cc: opsawg <opsawg@ietf.org>; ccamp@ietf.org; inventory-yang@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Inventory-yang] [CCAMP] [inventory-yang] poll for network inventory base model



+1

Thanks,
Dieter

On 04-Sep-23 16:41, Gabriele Galimberti wrote:

I agree with Jeff too.



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Data: luned? 4 settembre 2023, 16:14
A: "maqiufang (A)"  <mailto:maqiufang1=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org> <maqiufang1=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org>,  <mailto:inventory-yang@ietf.org> "inventory-yang@ietf.org"  <mailto:inventory-yang@ietf.org> <inventory-yang@ietf.org>
Cc:  <mailto:ivy-chairs@ietf.org> "ivy-chairs@ietf.org"  <mailto:ivy-chairs@ietf.org> <ivy-chairs@ietf.org>, opsawg  <mailto:opsawg@ietf.org> <opsawg@ietf.org>,  <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> "ccamp@ietf.org"  <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> <ccamp@ietf.org>
Oggetto: Re: [CCAMP] [inventory-yang] poll for network inventory base model



Hi Qiufang, Daniele and all,



My preference goes to option 1 to adopt draft-ietf-ccamp-network-inventory-yang-02 in IVY and evolve it to become the network inventory base model.



Kind regards,



Jeff





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De: Inventory-yang  <mailto:inventory-yang-bounces@ietf.org> <inventory-yang-bounces@ietf.org> En nombre de maqiufang (A) Enviado el: lunes, 28 de agosto de 2023 8:22
Para: inventory-yang@ietf.org <mailto:inventory-yang@ietf.org>
CC: ivy-chairs@ietf.org <mailto:ivy-chairs@ietf.org> ; opsawg  <mailto:opsawg@ietf.org> <opsawg@ietf.org>; ccamp@ietf.org <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org>
Asunto: [Inventory-yang] [inventory-yang] poll for network inventory base model



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Hi Working Group,



It?s now time to start considering how to move forward with the inventory base model. We have two different documents that could be used as a starting point for our work or, in case the working group believes none of them is ?good enough?, we can start a brand new ID.

In case the latter option is chosen, Daniele and I will write a -00 version including just the table of content and what we?d like to be covered in each section. The document will then be handed over to a pool of authors which will bring it till the WG adoption.



Hence, we will have a 3 weeks polling starting today. We decided to make it a bit longer than usual because this time the working group is requested to review two drafts instead of one.



This mail starts a 3 weeks polling, terminating on September 15th,  where we would like the working group to express your preference among:



1.      Adopt  draft-ietf-ccamp-network-inventory-yang-02 in IVY and evolve it to become the network inventory base model
2.      Adopt draft-wzwb-opsawg-network-inventory-management-03 in IVY and evolve it to become the network inventory base model
3.      Start a brand new document from scratch as described above



In the week after the closure of the polling (between September 18 and 25) we will have an IVY interim meeting to discuss the issues/concerns raised during the polling ( A separate mail will be sent).



Thank you,



Qiufang and Daniele









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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2023 16:28:37 +0800
From: "=?gb18030?B?V2VpIFdhbmc=?=" <weiwang94@foxmail.com>
To: "=?gb18030?B?bWFxaXVmYW5nIChBKQ==?="
        <maqiufang1=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org>,
        "=?gb18030?B?aW52ZW50b3J5LXlhbmdAaWV0Zi5vcmc=?="
        <inventory-yang@ietf.org>
Cc: "=?gb18030?B?aXZ5LWNoYWlyc0BpZXRmLm9yZw==?="
        <ivy-chairs@ietf.org>, "=?gb18030?B?b3BzYXdn?=" <opsawg@ietf.org>,
        "=?gb18030?B?Y2NhbXBAaWV0Zi5vcmc=?=" <ccamp@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] [inventory-yang] poll for network inventory base
        model
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Hi Chairs and all,


&nbsp; &nbsp; I haven?t closely followed up these two drafts in the poll, but after reading the charter scope, I think draft-wzwb seems a solid basis. And if all proponents want to be part of this work, option 3 is the way forward.&nbsp;



&nbsp;Best Regards
Wei
China Telecom


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From:                                                                                                                        "maqiufang (A)"                                                                                    <maqiufang1=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org&gt;;
Date:&nbsp;Mon, Aug 28, 2023 02:21 PM
To:&nbsp;"inventory-yang@ietf.org"<inventory-yang@ietf.org&gt;;
Cc:&nbsp;"ivy-chairs@ietf.org"<ivy-chairs@ietf.org&gt;;"opsawg"<opsawg@ietf.org&gt;;"ccamp@ietf.org"<ccamp@ietf.org&gt;;
Subject:&nbsp;[OPSAWG] [inventory-yang] poll for network inventory base model




Hi Working Group,

&nbsp;

It?s now time to start considering how to move forward with the inventory base model. We have two different documents that could be used as a starting point for our work or, in case the working group believes none of them is ?good enough?,  we can start a brand new ID.

In case the latter option is chosen, Daniele and I will write a -00 version including just the table of content and what we?d like to be covered in each section. The document will then be handed over to a pool of authors which will bring  it till the WG adoption.

&nbsp;

Hence, we will have a 3 weeks polling starting today. We decided to make it a bit longer than usual because this time the working group is requested to review two drafts instead of one.

&nbsp;

This mail starts a 3 weeks polling, terminating on September 15th, &nbsp;where we would like the working group to express your preference among:

&nbsp;

Adopt&nbsp; draft-ietf-ccamp-network-inventory-yang-02 in IVY and evolve it to become the network inventory base model

Adopt draft-wzwb-opsawg-network-inventory-management-03 in IVY and evolve it to become the network inventory base model

Start a brand new document from scratch as described above

&nbsp;

In the week after the closure of the polling (between September 18 and 25) we will have an IVY interim meeting to discuss the issues/concerns raised during the polling ( A separate mail will be sent).

&nbsp;

Thank you,

&nbsp;

Qiufang and Daniele

&nbsp;
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Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] FW: Working group adoption call for
        draft-ma-opsawg-ucl-acl-03
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Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2023 13:02:46 +0000
From: "Wubo (lana)" <lana.wubo@huawei.com>
To: "maqiufang (A)" <maqiufang1=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org>,
        "inventory-yang@ietf.org" <inventory-yang@ietf.org>
Cc: "ivy-chairs@ietf.org" <ivy-chairs@ietf.org>, opsawg
        <opsawg@ietf.org>, "ccamp@ietf.org" <ccamp@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] [inventory-yang] poll for network inventory base
        model
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Hi Qiufang, Daniele, all,

I voted for option 3. As I read the whole draft of option 1, the content is very hardware-centric. I think the attributes of physical and virtual devices, or the attributes of software and hardware components, are quite common and can be shared rather than augmentation.

I believe the inventory base model is a generic model, not limited to hardware inventory.

Thanks,
Bo Wu

From: Inventory-yang <inventory-yang-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of maqiufang (A)
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2023 2:22 PM
To: inventory-yang@ietf.org
Cc: ivy-chairs@ietf.org; opsawg <opsawg@ietf.org>; ccamp@ietf.org
Subject: [Inventory-yang] [inventory-yang] poll for network inventory base model

Hi Working Group,

It's now time to start considering how to move forward with the inventory base model. We have two different documents that could be used as a starting point for our work or, in case the working group believes none of them is "good enough", we can start a brand new ID.
In case the latter option is chosen, Daniele and I will write a -00 version including just the table of content and what we'd like to be covered in each section. The document will then be handed over to a pool of authors which will bring it till the WG adoption.

Hence, we will have a 3 weeks polling starting today. We decided to make it a bit longer than usual because this time the working group is requested to review two drafts instead of one.

This mail starts a 3 weeks polling, terminating on September 15th,  where we would like the working group to express your preference among:

1.       Adopt  draft-ietf-ccamp-network-inventory-yang-02 in IVY and evolve it to become the network inventory base model
2.       Adopt draft-wzwb-opsawg-network-inventory-management-03 in IVY and evolve it to become the network inventory base model
3.       Start a brand new document from scratch as described above

In the week after the closure of the polling (between September 18 and 25) we will have an IVY interim meeting to discuss the issues/concerns raised during the polling ( A separate mail will be sent).

Thank you,

Qiufang and Daniele

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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2023 16:41:34 +0000
From: "Prasenjit Manna (prmanna)" <prmanna@cisco.com>
To: "maqiufang (A)" <maqiufang1=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org>,
        "inventory-yang@ietf.org" <inventory-yang@ietf.org>
Cc: "ivy-chairs@ietf.org" <ivy-chairs@ietf.org>, opsawg
        <opsawg@ietf.org>, "ccamp@ietf.org" <ccamp@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] [Inventory-yang] [inventory-yang] poll for
        network inventory base model
Message-ID: <6E35791D-C416-44E6-9C5E-030F20AC10DF@cisco.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hi Qiufang, Daniele and all,

My preference is option 1, - Adopt  draft-ietf-ccamp-network-inventory-yang-02 in IVY and evolve it to become the network inventory base model.

Regards,
Prasenjit

From: Inventory-yang <inventory-yang-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of "maqiufang (A)" <maqiufang1=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Date: Monday, 28 August 2023 at 11:51 AM
To: "inventory-yang@ietf.org" <inventory-yang@ietf.org>
Cc: "ivy-chairs@ietf.org" <ivy-chairs@ietf.org>, opsawg <opsawg@ietf.org>, "ccamp@ietf.org" <ccamp@ietf.org>
Subject: [Inventory-yang] [inventory-yang] poll for network inventory base model

Hi Working Group,

It?s now time to start considering how to move forward with the inventory base model. We have two different documents that could be used as a starting point for our work or, in case the working group believes none of them is ?good enough?, we can start a brand new ID.
In case the latter option is chosen, Daniele and I will write a -00 version including just the table of content and what we?d like to be covered in each section. The document will then be handed over to a pool of authors which will bring it till the WG adoption.

Hence, we will have a 3 weeks polling starting today. We decided to make it a bit longer than usual because this time the working group is requested to review two drafts instead of one.

This mail starts a 3 weeks polling, terminating on September 15th,  where we would like the working group to express your preference among:


  1.  Adopt  draft-ietf-ccamp-network-inventory-yang-02 in IVY and evolve it to become the network inventory base model
  2.  Adopt draft-wzwb-opsawg-network-inventory-management-03 in IVY and evolve it to become the network inventory base model
  3.  Start a brand new document from scratch as described above

In the week after the closure of the polling (between September 18 and 25) we will have an IVY interim meeting to discuss the issues/concerns raised during the polling ( A separate mail will be sent).

Thank you,

Qiufang and Daniele

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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2023 18:58:46 +0000
From: Phil Bedard <bedard.phil@gmail.com>
To: Gabriele Galimberti <ggalimbe56@gmail.com>, "JEAN-FRANCOIS
        BOUQUIER, Vodafone" <jeff.bouquier=40vodafone.com@dmarc.ietf.org>,
        "maqiufang (A)" <maqiufang1=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org>,
        "inventory-yang@ietf.org" <inventory-yang@ietf.org>
Cc: "ivy-chairs@ietf.org" <ivy-chairs@ietf.org>, opsawg
        <opsawg@ietf.org>, "ccamp@ietf.org" <ccamp@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] [CCAMP] [inventory-yang] poll for network
        inventory base model
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        <SJ1PR20MB4714EDA595AF5BE1293303CCF7E8A@SJ1PR20MB4714.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"

I am also in favor of adopting the ccamp-network-inventory-yang draft as the starting point and then adding the additional components to solve the additional requirements.

Thanks,
Phil

From: Inventory-yang <inventory-yang-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Gabriele Galimberti <ggalimbe56@gmail.com>
Date: Monday, September 4, 2023 at 10:41 AM
To: JEAN-FRANCOIS BOUQUIER, Vodafone <jeff.bouquier=40vodafone.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, maqiufang (A) <maqiufang1=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, inventory-yang@ietf.org <inventory-yang@ietf.org>
Cc: ivy-chairs@ietf.org <ivy-chairs@ietf.org>, opsawg <opsawg@ietf.org>, ccamp@ietf.org <ccamp@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Inventory-yang] [CCAMP] [inventory-yang] poll for network inventory base model I agree with Jeff too.

Best Regards,

Gabriele Galimberti

Via Melgacciata, 13
20813 ? Bovisio Masciago (MB)
Italy

+39 3357481947

Da: CCAMP <ccamp-bounces@ietf.org> per conto di "JEAN-FRANCOIS BOUQUIER, Vodafone" <jeff.bouquier=40vodafone.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Data: luned? 4 settembre 2023, 16:14
A: "maqiufang (A)" <maqiufang1=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, "inventory-yang@ietf.org" <inventory-yang@ietf.org>
Cc: "ivy-chairs@ietf.org" <ivy-chairs@ietf.org>, opsawg <opsawg@ietf.org>, "ccamp@ietf.org" <ccamp@ietf.org>
Oggetto: Re: [CCAMP] [inventory-yang] poll for network inventory base model

Hi Qiufang, Daniele and all,

My preference goes to option 1 to adopt draft-ietf-ccamp-network-inventory-yang-02 in IVY and evolve it to become the network inventory base model.

Kind regards,

Jeff



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De: Inventory-yang <inventory-yang-bounces@ietf.org> En nombre de maqiufang (A) Enviado el: lunes, 28 de agosto de 2023 8:22
Para: inventory-yang@ietf.org
CC: ivy-chairs@ietf.org; opsawg <opsawg@ietf.org>; ccamp@ietf.org
Asunto: [Inventory-yang] [inventory-yang] poll for network inventory base model

This is an external email. Do you know who has sent it? Can you be sure that any links and attachments contained within it are safe? If in any doubt, use the Report Message button in your Outlook client to report this mail.
Hi Working Group,

It?s now time to start considering how to move forward with the inventory base model. We have two different documents that could be used as a starting point for our work or, in case the working group believes none of them is ?good enough?, we can start a brand new ID.
In case the latter option is chosen, Daniele and I will write a -00 version including just the table of content and what we?d like to be covered in each section. The document will then be handed over to a pool of authors which will bring it till the WG adoption.

Hence, we will have a 3 weeks polling starting today. We decided to make it a bit longer than usual because this time the working group is requested to review two drafts instead of one.

This mail starts a 3 weeks polling, terminating on September 15th,  where we would like the working group to express your preference among:


  1.  Adopt  draft-ietf-ccamp-network-inventory-yang-02 in IVY and evolve it to become the network inventory base model
  2.  Adopt draft-wzwb-opsawg-network-inventory-management-03 in IVY and evolve it to become the network inventory base model
  3.  Start a brand new document from scratch as described above

In the week after the closure of the polling (between September 18 and 25) we will have an IVY interim meeting to discuss the issues/concerns raised during the polling ( A separate mail will be sent).

Thank you,

Qiufang and Daniele

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