Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG
Paul Lambert <paul@marvell.com> Thu, 23 January 2014 18:37 UTC
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From: Paul Lambert <paul@marvell.com>
To: "Igoe, Kevin M." <kmigoe@nsa.gov>, "'dan@geer.org'" <dan@geer.org>
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:37:01 -0800
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Subject: Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG
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Hi Kevin, On 1/22/14, 9:29 AM, "Igoe, Kevin M." <kmigoe@nsa.gov> wrote: >If we were to put "key centric" on the CFRG agenda for IETF-89, do we >have a speaker willing to give a presentation? Thank you for your interest in the topic. I would be very willing and interested in presenting on Œkey centric¹, however for the first time in many years the IETF is occurring the same week as the Wi-Fi Alliance Š so I¹m not available that week. >If this is too short of a >deadline to meet, we can always have a presentation at a later meeting? Yes. That would work well. Paul > >Three options: > 1) discuss at nest meeting > 2) discuss in the near future but not at the next meeting > 3) no support for a presentation in the near future. Maybe sometime >later. > 4) Utter silence on the mailing list. > >As to #4, the Germans have a saying "Keine Antwort ist auch eine Antwort" >(no is answer is also an answer). > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Cfrg [mailto:cfrg-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf Of dan@geer.org >> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 12:10 PM >> To: Paul Lambert >> Cc: Sean Turner; David McGrew; cfrg@irtf.org >> Subject: Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG >> >> >> > A useful mechanism, but it would be better to start with reexamining >> and > redefining our usage of public keys. Specifically - I'm an >> advocate of > keys as the primary identifiers. A "key centric" >> approach is a dual model >> > to Kohnfelder/X.509 The SDSI/SPKI work did progress work in this >> > direction, but failed for a variety of reasons. >> >> Key-centric versus name-centric identity is The Question, is it not? >> >> I rather doubt that the Administration's push for the NSTIC is likely >> to settle in on key-centricity, but might you elaborate on your >> preference for it? I'm sympathetic to it on the grounds that it >> directly enables multi-personna and, thus, data segmentation. >> >> If I'm being obtuse, feel free to say so. >> >> --dan >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Cfrg mailing list >> Cfrg@irtf.org >> http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg
- Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG David McGrew
- Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG David McGrew
- Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG Trevor Perrin
- [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG David McGrew
- Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG Sean Turner
- Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG Henrick Hellström
- Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG David Wagner
- Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG Henrick Hellström
- Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG Henrick Hellström
- Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG Paul Lambert
- Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG David McGrew
- Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG Paul Lambert
- Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG William Whyte
- Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG Watson Ladd
- Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG Paul Lambert
- Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG Dan Brown
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- Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG Paul Lambert
- Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG William Whyte
- Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG Max Pritikin (pritikin)
- Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG Watson Ladd
- Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG Sean Turner
- Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG Sean Turner
- Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG Adam Back
- [Cfrg] QKD is pointless (was: Re: considering new… David McGrew
- Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Cfrg] QKD is pointless (was: Re: considering… Paterson, Kenny
- Re: [Cfrg] QKD is pointless (was: Re: considering… Sean Turner
- Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG Sean Turner
- Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG Max Pritikin (pritikin)
- Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG Dan Brown
- Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG Paul Lambert
- Re: [Cfrg] QKD is pointless (was: Re: considering… Igoe, Kevin M.
- Re: [Cfrg] QKD is pointless (was: Re: considering… Igoe, Kevin M.
- Re: [Cfrg] QKD is pointless (was: Re: considering… Watson Ladd
- [Cfrg] DANE in the IETF (was: Re: considering new… Paul Hoffman
- [Cfrg] One Key -> RE: considering new topics for … Paul Lambert
- Re: [Cfrg] QKD is pointless (was: Re: considering… Paul Lambert
- [Cfrg] ReL DANE in the IETF (was: Re: considering… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Cfrg] QKD is pointless David McGrew
- Re: [Cfrg] QKD is pointless Hilarie Orman
- [Cfrg] likelihood that someone has a quantum comp… David McGrew
- Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG dan
- Re: [Cfrg] likelihood that someone has a quantum … David Jacobson
- Re: [Cfrg] likelihood that someone has a quantum … William Whyte
- Re: [Cfrg] likelihood that someone has a quantum … Watson Ladd
- Re: [Cfrg] likelihood that someone has a quantum … Yoav Nir
- Re: [Cfrg] likelihood that someone has a quantum … Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Cfrg] likelihood that someone has a quantum … William Whyte
- Re: [Cfrg] likelihood that someone has a quantum … David McGrew
- Re: [Cfrg] likelihood that someone has a quantum … David McGrew
- Re: [Cfrg] likelihood that someone has a quantum … William Whyte
- Re: [Cfrg] likelihood that someone has a quantum … arne renkema-padmos
- Re: [Cfrg] likelihood that someone has a quantum … Igoe, Kevin M.
- Re: [Cfrg] QKD is pointless David Wagner
- Re: [Cfrg] likelihood that someone has a quantum … William Whyte
- Re: [Cfrg] likelihood that someone has a quantum … William Whyte
- Re: [Cfrg] likelihood that someone has a quantum … William Whyte
- Re: [Cfrg] likelihood that someone has a quantum … David McGrew
- Re: [Cfrg] likelihood that someone has a quantum … arne renkema-padmos
- Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG Paul Lambert
- Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG Igoe, Kevin M.
- Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG Paul Lambert
- Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG David McGrew
- [Cfrg] 'key centric' architecture (was: Re: consi… Rene Struik
- Re: [Cfrg] 'key centric' architecture (was: Re: c… Richard Barnes
- Re: [Cfrg] considering new topics for CFRG David McGrew