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Re: [Cfrg] ISE seeks help with some crypto drafts

Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu> Mon, 08 April 2019 22:30 UTC

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Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2019 17:29:58 -0500
From: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>
To: Ted Krovetz <ted@krovetz.net>
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Subject: Re: [Cfrg] ISE seeks help with some crypto drafts
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On Mon, Apr 08, 2019 at 03:13:43PM -0700, Ted Krovetz wrote:
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> > On Apr 8, 2019, at 6:32 AM, mcgrew <mcgrew@cisco.com> wrote:
> > 
> > It looks like the drafts haven’t been updated since they were first posted, though Ted expressed a willingness to update them.
> 
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> I have not updated anything as of now because my sense is that the consensus will not be there for CFRG to adopt this project. Additionally, there appears to be some agreement that crypto should not go through the independent stream. That leaves this route as a likely dead end.
> 
> If this work does not become an RFC, I'd still like to publish it in some stable way so that people could use it. Any suggestions?

There are probably a lot of options, including self-hosting (if you have a
stable web space already) and publishing an I-D with a "tombstone" notice
about "this document is not intended for publication as an RFC, but this
revision is expected to be the final revision, and it is intended to have
some use cases in this form".

-Ben

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