Re: [Cfrg] Results of the poll: Elliptic Curves - preferred curves around 256bit work factor (ends on March 3rd)
Benjamin Black <b@b3k.us> Thu, 05 March 2015 23:57 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Cfrg] Results of the poll: Elliptic Curves - preferred curves around 256bit work factor (ends on March 3rd)
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The arguments were suggested on the list, but made explicitly in private communication. I do not feel comfortable making private communication public, though I understand this puts me in the minority. On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Watson Ladd <watsonbladd@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Mar 5, 2015 3:23 PM, "Benjamin Black" <b@b3k.us> wrote: > > > > What happened to the earlier, vigorous arguments by Robert Ransom, > Alyssa Rowan and Mike Hamburg that Goldilocks448, and perhaps all of the > curves based on large primes, would be covered by Microsoft IP? > > Were these the arguments made? Or was it that the particular algorithms > discussed by Microsoft in March were patented? > > I don't recall any argument of the first form. Perhaps you can provide a > link to am email, or a patent number. But I do recall the second. > > Sincerely, > Watson Ladd > > > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Alexey Melnikov < > alexey.melnikov@isode.com> wrote: > >> > >> On 25/02/2015 14:27, Alexey Melnikov wrote: > >>> > >>> CFRG chairs are starting another poll: > >>> > >>> Q3: This is a Quaker poll (please answer one of "preferred", > "acceptable" or "no") for each curve specified below: > >>> > >>> 1) 448 (Goldilocks) > >>> 2) 480 > >>> 3) 521 > >>> 4) other curve (please name another curve that you "prefer" or > "accept", or state "no") > >> > >> Thank you for all responses. > >> > >> 521 - 6 preferred, 14 - acceptable > >> 448 - 16 preferred, 4 - acceptable > >> > >> Very few prefer others (512 NUMS, 480). > >> > >> So CFRG prefers curve 448. > >>> > >>> > >>> If you stated your curve preferences in the poll that ended on > February 23rd (see the attachment), you don't need to reply to this poll, > your opinion is already recorded. But please double check what chairs > recorded (see the attachment). > >>> > >>> If you changed your mind or only answered the question about > performance versa memory usage for curves 512 and 521, feel free to reply. > >>> > >>> Once this issues is settled, we will be discussing (in no particular > order. Chairs reserve the right to add additional questions) implementation > specifics and coordinate systems for Diffie-Hellman. We will then make > decisions on signature schemes. Please don't discuss any of these future > topics at this time. > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Cfrg mailing list > >>Cfrg@irtf.org > >>http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Cfrg mailing list > >Cfrg@irtf.org > >http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg > > >
- [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred curves … Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Blumenthal, Uri - 0558 - MITLL
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Watson Ladd
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Yoav Nir
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Adam Langley
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Paul Lambert
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Simon Josefsson
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Watson Ladd
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Derek Atkins
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Damien Miller
- [Cfrg] On "non-NIST" Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Cfrg] On "non-NIST" stephen.farrell
- Re: [Cfrg] On "non-NIST" Paul Lambert
- Re: [Cfrg] On "non-NIST" Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Alyssa Rowan
- Re: [Cfrg] On "non-NIST" Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Cfrg] On "non-NIST" Tony Arcieri
- Re: [Cfrg] On "non-NIST" Tony Arcieri
- Re: [Cfrg] On "non-NIST" Damien Miller
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Dan Brown
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Dan Harkins
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… _MiW
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Rene Struik
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… David Leon Gil
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Andy Lutomirski
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Tony Arcieri
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Andrey Jivsov
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… David Gil
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Benjamin Beurdouche
- [Cfrg] Results of the poll: Elliptic Curves - pre… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Cfrg] Results of the poll: Elliptic Curves -… Benjamin Black
- Re: [Cfrg] Results of the poll: Elliptic Curves -… Watson Ladd
- Re: [Cfrg] Results of the poll: Elliptic Curves -… Michael Hamburg
- Re: [Cfrg] Results of the poll: Elliptic Curves -… Benjamin Black
- Re: [Cfrg] Results of the poll: Elliptic Curves -… Benjamin Black
- Re: [Cfrg] Comb algorithm IPR status (was: Result… Alyssa Rowan
- Re: [Cfrg] Comb algorithm IPR status (was: Result… Benjamin Black
- Re: [Cfrg] Comb algorithm IPR status Mike Hamburg
- Re: [Cfrg] Comb algorithm IPR status Alyssa Rowan
- Re: [Cfrg] Comb algorithm IPR status Benjamin Black
- Re: [Cfrg] Comb algorithm IPR status Benjamin Black