Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks of Resource-constrained Nodes (6lo)
Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> Thu, 03 October 2013 09:17 UTC
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Subject: Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks of Resource-constrained Nodes (6lo)
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On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 10:33:15AM +0200, Benoit Claise wrote: > > Why? > - SNMP being the way to monitor counters on a constrained node now, > I could buy that! > However, just telling "MIB modules" in the charter might give the > wrong impression that SNMP is the only way to manage a constrained > node. We don't know the answer at this point in time (at least, I > don't) > > - We really need to make the difference between information model > and data model (RFC 3444) > Mapping from an information model to a different data model/protocol > is the right way to go > > Notes: > - the distinction between information model and data model doesn't > imply that we need to have two deliverables. > - I'm in line with Dan regarding this comment "a separate discussion > (here or some place else) about the broader aspects of management of > resource-constrained nodes. " This discussion should happen > sometime, somewhere. It might help to look at what we are talking about here. The 'information model' really is this Case Diagram: IPv6 layer ^ v InDelivers -+- -+- OutRequests | | InDiscards <--+ | | | InCompOKs .-->| |-->. OutCompReqds InCompFails <--| | | +--> OutCompFails InCompReqds `<--+ +<--' OutCompOKs | | | +-->. OutFragReqds InReasmOKs .-->| | +--> OutFragFails InReasmFails <--| | | -+- OutFragOKs InReasmReqds `<--+ +<--' OutFragCreates | | | | InMeshDelivers |<--. | InMeshForwds | |-->. | InMeshReceives +-->' | | | +--> | OutMeshHopLimitExceeds | +--> | OutMeshNoRoutes | | | | | .<--+ OutMeshRequests | `-->| | OutMeshForwds | `-->| OutMeshTransmits | | InHdrErrors <--+ +--> OutDiscards | | InReceives -+- -+- OutTransmits ^ v interface layer In the past, we simply recoded such things in MIB modules in the 'Overview' section and we were done. So is your proposal that we s/Overview/Information Model/ ? Well, if that is what is being called for... /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <http://www.jacobs-university.de/>
- Re: [coman] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks of Reso… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [coman] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks of Reso… Benoit Claise
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- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Benoit Claise
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [coman] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks of Reso… Ulrich Herberg
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- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Juergen Schoenwaelder
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- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Ulrich Herberg
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- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Carsten Bormann
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- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Benoit Claise
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Erik Nordmark
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Erik Nordmark
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… joel jaeggli
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Turner, Randy
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Benoit Claise
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Benoit Claise
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Benoit Claise
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Benoit Claise
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Benoit Claise
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Samita Chakrabarti
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Benoit Claise