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Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks of Resource-constrained Nodes (6lo)

"Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <dromasca@avaya.com> Thu, 26 September 2013 16:22 UTC

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Hi, 

So instead of 'development of MIB modules' the charter should maybe say 'Information Model for the counters in the 6LoWPAN layer for basic monitoring and troubleshooting using SMIv2 MIB modules format'?

Regards,

Dan


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Juergen Schoenwaelder [mailto:j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-
> university.de]
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 4:28 PM
> To: Benoit Claise
> Cc: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); coman@ietf.org; The IESG; 6lo WG
> Subject: Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks of Resource-
> constrained Nodes (6lo)
> 
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 04:07:15PM +0200, Benoit Claise wrote:
> > >My understanding is that the charter refers to
> > >
> > >http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schoenw-6lowpan-mib-03
> > >
> > >and that it not aims at a general discussion about network management
> > >of constrained devices. That is, it refers to concrete work instead
> > >of abstract work.
> > That's actually my point. Should we focus on developing a MIB module,
> > taking for granting that SNMP is THE way to manage constrained nodes?
> > Or should we ask ourselves: based on the collected management
> > requirements, let's see what is more appropriate?
> 
> One more time: The goal here is to define the number and the semantics
> of the counters that need to implemented in the 6LoWPAN layer in order
> to enable basic monitoring and troubleshooting. The formalism we have
> (as a standard) for that are MIB modules.
> 
> There are several ways to transport the data over various protocols
> today and there may be even more in the future. This activity is about
> getting agreement what exactly needs to be counted where in the 6LoWPAN
> processing.
> 
> > You know, like I2RS is currently doing, instead of jumping to
> > NETCONF/YANG directly because it seemed like the solution.
> 
> If you believe this is needed here in order to define a bunch of
> counters.
> 
> /js
> 
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