Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks of Resource-constrained Nodes (6lo)

"Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <dromasca@avaya.com> Fri, 27 September 2013 14:43 UTC

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From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <dromasca@avaya.com>
To: Ulrich Herberg <ulrich@herberg.name>, Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>, Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com>, "coman@ietf.org" <coman@ietf.org>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, 6lo WG <6lo@ietf.org>
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Hi Ulrich,

I believe that this proposal is even more vague. According to Juergen, the scope is specifically on a subset of the management solution specifically written in SMIv2. I believe that this subset (which may be what the operators need in a first phase) should be exactly described in the charter. A discussion broader discussion about a full management solution, or the management of constrained networks in general should happen separately in this WG or someplace else.

Regards,

Dan




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ulrich Herberg [mailto:ulrich@herberg.name]
> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 1:07 AM
> To: Juergen Schoenwaelder; Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Benoit Claise;
> coman@ietf.org; The IESG; 6lo WG
> Subject: Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks of Resource-
> constrained Nodes (6lo)
> 
> Jürgen, Dan,
> 
> in order to come to a quick conclusion about this charter item, can you
> both indicate whether my proposed change would be acceptable? (or
> propose something better?)
> 
> ====================
> OLD
> 2. Related MIB modules
> 
> NEW
> 2. Related interfaces for management applications (e.g., MIB modules)
> ====================
> 
> That would immediately cover the 6lowpan MIB, but not necessarily limit
> the scope to MIB modules.
> 
> Best regards
> Ulrich
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Juergen Schoenwaelder
> <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 04:21:51PM +0000, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote:
> >>
> >> So instead of 'development of MIB modules' the charter should maybe
> say 'Information Model for the counters in the 6LoWPAN layer for basic
> monitoring and troubleshooting using SMIv2 MIB modules format'?
> >>
> >
> > You can argue for this but I believe this is not useful. We have ~20
> > years of MIB modules and frankly most of them (and in particular those
> > getting implemented) are focusing on statistics and counters. You can
> > now go into the direction of saying we stop doing this concrete down
> > to earth data modeling work and instead we do information models (in a
> > yet to be agree format). Is this going to help implementors? Is this
> > going to help people deploying stuff?
> >
> > /js
> >
> > --
> > Juergen Schoenwaelder           Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH
> > Phone: +49 421 200 3587         Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany
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