Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks of Resource-constrained Nodes (6lo)
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From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <dromasca@avaya.com>
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Hi Ulrich, I believe that this proposal is even more vague. According to Juergen, the scope is specifically on a subset of the management solution specifically written in SMIv2. I believe that this subset (which may be what the operators need in a first phase) should be exactly described in the charter. A discussion broader discussion about a full management solution, or the management of constrained networks in general should happen separately in this WG or someplace else. Regards, Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: Ulrich Herberg [mailto:ulrich@herberg.name] > Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 1:07 AM > To: Juergen Schoenwaelder; Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Benoit Claise; > coman@ietf.org; The IESG; 6lo WG > Subject: Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks of Resource- > constrained Nodes (6lo) > > Jürgen, Dan, > > in order to come to a quick conclusion about this charter item, can you > both indicate whether my proposed change would be acceptable? (or > propose something better?) > > ==================== > OLD > 2. Related MIB modules > > NEW > 2. Related interfaces for management applications (e.g., MIB modules) > ==================== > > That would immediately cover the 6lowpan MIB, but not necessarily limit > the scope to MIB modules. > > Best regards > Ulrich > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Juergen Schoenwaelder > <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 04:21:51PM +0000, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > >> > >> So instead of 'development of MIB modules' the charter should maybe > say 'Information Model for the counters in the 6LoWPAN layer for basic > monitoring and troubleshooting using SMIv2 MIB modules format'? > >> > > > > You can argue for this but I believe this is not useful. We have ~20 > > years of MIB modules and frankly most of them (and in particular those > > getting implemented) are focusing on statistics and counters. You can > > now go into the direction of saying we stop doing this concrete down > > to earth data modeling work and instead we do information models (in a > > yet to be agree format). Is this going to help implementors? Is this > > going to help people deploying stuff? > > > > /js > > > > -- > > Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH > > Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany > > Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <http://www.jacobs-university.de/> > > _______________________________________________ > > coman mailing list > > coman@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/coman
- Re: [coman] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks of Reso… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [coman] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks of Reso… Benoit Claise
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Benoit Claise
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [coman] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks of Reso… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Samita Chakrabarti
- [coman] FW: [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Samita Chakrabarti
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Benoit Claise
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Erik Nordmark
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Erik Nordmark
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… joel jaeggli
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Turner, Randy
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Benoit Claise
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Benoit Claise
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Benoit Claise
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Benoit Claise
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Benoit Claise
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Samita Chakrabarti
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Benoit Claise