Re: [dane] Comments on draft-wouters-dane-openpgp-02

mrex@sap.com (Martin Rex) Mon, 28 July 2014 14:47 UTC

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Rene Bartsch wrote:
> 
> 2. MTAs/SPAM detection systems MUST check if the tupel "sender email 
> address" <-> "sender OpenPGP public key" matches and MUST reject the 
> email in case it does not match with signed messages to prevent address 
> forgery and SPAM.

Terribly bad idea.  Similar to DMARC policies, such behaviour by MTA
would be a true criminal offence when performed by telecommunications
service providers under EU jurisdiction.

This is a check for the receiving MUA to perform.

-Martin