RE: [dhcwg] behavior on lifetime expiration (Re: comments ondraft-ietf-dhc-lifetime-01.txt)
"Bernie Volz" <volz@cisco.com> Wed, 25 August 2004 01:57 UTC
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From: Bernie Volz <volz@cisco.com>
To: jdq@lucent.com, 'Stig Venaas' <Stig.Venaas@uninett.no>
Subject: RE: [dhcwg] behavior on lifetime expiration (Re: comments ondraft-ietf-dhc-lifetime-01.txt)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 21:00:45 -0400
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I'd vote for "Refresh Time Option". I have no problem renaming this and I do how we keep it simple - client should refresh its data when the time elapses (note that this doesn't preclude the client from doing it earlier if it has a good reason to do so). - Bernie > -----Original Message----- > From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Joe Quanaim > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 10:25 AM > To: Stig Venaas > Cc: dhcwg@ietf.org; tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk > Subject: Re: [dhcwg] behavior on lifetime expiration (Re: > comments ondraft-ietf-dhc-lifetime-01.txt) > > > Stig Venaas wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2004 at 01:42:39PM -0400, Joe Quanaim wrote: [...] > > > > > It sounds like all that is needed is a new name for this option. > > > > So let's try to find a new name. I think "update time > option" is one > > possibility. I don't like "update timer option" because > this is only a > > value to use for the timer, not the timer itself. > > > > Another alternative is "refresh time option" perhaps? > > > > I discussed it with a colleague, and we came up with > alternatives like > > "suggested refresh/update time option" or "refresh/update within > > option". Not so sure about the last one, it tries to make it clear > > that you might refresh/update before the specified time. > > > > I think we should keep the name fairly short. We should have a name > > that isn't misleading, but people will still have to read > the draft to > > understand exactly what it is. > > Another alternative might be "refresh delay". This changes > the nature of the > name from "check back in n seconds" to "do not check again > until at least n > seconds". It does not piggyback on the notion of expiration, > which is well > defined in the address management side of dhcp, but not on > the stateless > option side. > > Joe. > > > > _______________________________________________ > dhcwg mailing list > dhcwg@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcwg > _______________________________________________ dhcwg mailing list dhcwg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcwg
- [dhcwg] comments on draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime-01.txt JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
- [dhcwg] Re: comments on draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime-0… Stig Venaas
- Re: [dhcwg] Re: comments on draft-ietf-dhc-lifeti… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] comments on draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime-0… Joe Quanaim
- Re: [dhcwg] Re: comments on draft-ietf-dhc-lifeti… Stig Venaas
- Re: [dhcwg] comments on draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime-0… Ted Lemon
- RE: [dhcwg] comments on draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime-0… Bernie Volz
- Re: [dhcwg] comments on draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime-0… Stig Venaas
- Re: [dhcwg] comments on draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime-0… Joe Quanaim
- Re: [dhcwg] comments on draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime-0… JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
- Re: [dhcwg] comments on draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime-0… Stig Venaas
- Re: [dhcwg] comments on draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime-0… Joe Quanaim
- Re: [dhcwg] comments on draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime-0… Stig Venaas
- RE: [dhcwg] comments on draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime-0… Bernie Volz
- Re: [dhcwg] comments on draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime-0… Joe Quanaim
- Re: [dhcwg] comments on draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime-0… Stig Venaas
- RE: [dhcwg] comments on draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime-0… Bernie Volz
- Re: [dhcwg] comments on draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime-0… Joe Quanaim
- RE: [dhcwg] comments on draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime-0… Bernie Volz
- Re: [dhcwg] comments on draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime-0… JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
- Re: [dhcwg] comments on draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime-0… JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
- Re: [dhcwg] comments on draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime-0… Stig Venaas
- RE: [dhcwg] comments on draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime-0… Bernie Volz
- Re: [dhcwg] comments on draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime-0… Stig Venaas
- RE: [dhcwg] comments on draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime-0… Bernie Volz
- Re: [dhcwg] comments on draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime-0… Stig Venaas
- Re: [dhcwg] comments on draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime-0… Joe Quanaim
- Re: [dhcwg] comments on draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime-0… Stig Venaas
- RE: [dhcwg] comments on draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime-0… Bernie Volz
- Re: [dhcwg] comments on draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime-0… JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
- [dhcwg] behavior on lifetime expiration (Re: comm… JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
- Re: [dhcwg] behavior on lifetime expiration (Re: … Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] behavior on lifetime expiration (Re: … Joe Quanaim
- Re: [dhcwg] behavior on lifetime expiration (Re: … Stig Venaas
- Re: [dhcwg] behavior on lifetime expiration (Re: … Tim Chown
- Re: [dhcwg] behavior on lifetime expiration (Re: … Joe Quanaim
- Re: [dhcwg] behavior on lifetime expiration (Re: … Stig Venaas
- Re: [dhcwg] behavior on lifetime expiration (Re: … JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
- Re: [dhcwg] behavior on lifetime expiration (Re: … Stig Venaas
- Re: [dhcwg] behavior on lifetime expiration (Re: … Joe Quanaim
- Re: [dhcwg] behavior on lifetime expiration (Re: … Ted Lemon
- RE: [dhcwg] behavior on lifetime expiration (Re: … Bernie Volz
- RE: [dhcwg] behavior on lifetime expiration (Re: … Bernie Volz
- Re: [dhcwg] behavior on lifetime expiration (Re: … Robert Elz
- Re: [dhcwg] comments on draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime-0… Robert Elz
- Re: [dhcwg] behavior on lifetime expiration (Re: … Stig Venaas
- Re: [dhcwg] behavior on lifetime expiration (Re: … Robert Elz
- Re: [dhcwg] behavior on lifetime expiration (Re: … Joe Quanaim
- Re: [dhcwg] behavior on lifetime expiration (Re: … Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] comments on draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime-0… Stig Venaas
- Re: [dhcwg] behavior on lifetime expiration (Re: … JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
- Re: [dhcwg] behavior on lifetime expiration (Re: … JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
- Re: [dhcwg] comments on draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime-0… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] dhc-lifetime-01: dropping omitted opt… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] behavior on lifetime expiration (Re: … Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] behavior on lifetime expiration (Re: … Stig Venaas
- Re: [dhcwg] comments on draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime-0… JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
- Re: [dhcwg] behavior on lifetime expiration (Re: … JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
- Re: [dhcwg] behavior on lifetime expiration (Re: … Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] behavior on lifetime expiration (Re: … Robert Elz
- Re: [dhcwg] behavior on lifetime expiration (Re: … Stig Venaas
- Re: [dhcwg] behavior on lifetime expiration (Re: … JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
- Re: [dhcwg] behavior on lifetime expiration (Re: … Stig Venaas
- Re: [dhcwg] behavior on lifetime expiration (Re: … Stig Venaas
- Re: [dhcwg] behavior on lifetime expiration (Re: … Joe Quanaim
- Re: [dhcwg] behavior on lifetime expiration (Re: … Stig Venaas