Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-packetcable-04.txt
Thomas Narten <narten@us.ibm.com> Fri, 20 December 2002 15:52 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-packetcable-04.txt
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I was about to put this document back before the IESG formally, but I notice that the IANA considerations section still talks about future cablelabs suboptions being assigned via "expert review". I thought there was agreement to make this "IETF Consensus". I.e., see: http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/working-groups/dhcwg/current/msg01416.html I haven't checked the other edits carefully. Is this document *really* ready for advancement, or did some other things get left out? Also, general comment (not to single this ID out, though it occurs here). When making changes to documents in response to issues that have been raised (especially on the mailing list), it is generally preferable to respond to such comments not just by saying "OK, will be fixed in the next rev", but by saying "OK, here are the text changes I propose -- do they look OK?" The advantage of this approach is you get instant review/feedback on whether the changes are ideal. I mention this here because there was discussion about whether to include a normative reference to the dhc-concat draft, in the case where options are too long to fit in a single option. There was no indication on the mailing list that this change would be made, but there is new text to that effect in the document: {+When the total length of a CCC option exceeds 255 octets, the procedure outlined in [4] SHOULD be employed to split the option into multiple, smaller options.+} My immediate reaction to the text is that this should be a MUST, not a SHOULD. If one goes and reads the definition of SHOULD, it say: > 3. SHOULD This word, or the adjective "RECOMMENDED", mean that there > may exist valid reasons in particular circumstances to ignore a > particular item, but the full implications must be understood and > carefully weighed before choosing a different course. In this case, if the CCC option exceeds 255, under what conditions should the SHOULD be ignored? I can't think if any right off. It would have been more efficient to have iterated on this text on the mailing list the point the issue orignally came up. That way, we might have avoided the need for another revision of the document. Note that the same applies for the point above that seems to have been missed. Thomas _______________________________________________ dhcwg mailing list dhcwg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcwg
- [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Configur… Ralph Droms
- RE: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Bernie Volz (EUD)
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Thomas Narten
- RE: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Bernie Volz (EUD)
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Thomas Narten
- RE: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Bernie Volz (EUD)
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Thomas Narten
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Paul Duffy
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Paul Duffy
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Paul Duffy
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Erik Nordmark
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Paul Duffy
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Paul Duffy
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Erik Nordmark
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Josh Littlefield
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Paul Duffy
- RE: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Cosmo, Patrick
- RE: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Paul Duffy
- RE: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Cosmo, Patrick
- RE: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Cosmo, Patrick
- RE: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Ralph Droms
- RE: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Ralph Droms
- RE: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Woundy, Richard
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Erik Nordmark
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Paul Duffy
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Erik Nordmark
- RE: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Woundy, Richard
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Paul Duffy
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Ralph Droms
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Paul Duffy
- RE: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Sumanth Channabasappa
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Erik Nordmark
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Erik Nordmark
- RE: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Erik Nordmark
- RE: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Woundy, Richard
- RE: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Erik Nordmark
- RE: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Woundy, Richard
- RE: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Cosmo, Patrick
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Ted Lemon
- RE: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Conf… Ryan Scripps
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-packetcable-03.txt Thomas Narten
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-packetcable-04.txt Thomas Narten
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-packetcable-04.txt Thomas Narten
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-packetcable-04.txt Thomas Narten
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-packetcable-04.txt Thomas Narten
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-packetcable-05.txt Thomas Narten
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-packetcable-05.txt Thomas Narten