Re: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal
Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> Wed, 03 June 2015 14:03 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal
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This sounds reasonable. Given Magnus's earlier proposal to add "...coordinate with...SIPREC...," I don't think any further changes are needed in the charter to accommodate recording. /a On 6/3/15 08:02, Eric Rescorla wrote: > I like Magnus's position here and I appreciate him stating it so clearly. > > -Ekr > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 5:58 AM, Magnus Westerlund > <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com > <mailto:magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>> wrote: > > Hutton, Andrew skrev den 2015-06-03 10:42: > > I agree there is some value in exploring the recording use > case it is > one of the first questions everybody asks when discussing PERC. > > > >From my perspective there are two ways of doing recording of > media content in PERC. > > 1. Invite the recorder as a full fledged authenticated session > participant that use the normal way of getting the keys to the > media as any other endpoint. > > 2. The recorder only stores the encrypted media content, thus > being a semi-trusted entity to that are allowed to get a copy or > be integrated into the central forwarders. At the time one wants > to access the recorded content one will have to request the > relevant keys from the key-management function, that will also > have to have stored the relevant group keys for the session to > enable decryption. > > I would claim that the second one is the securer, and enables > better tracking of who access recordings of a secured conference. > > > Hope we are allowed to consider this. > > > The charter talks about informing and coordinating with SIPREC. > This to have an exchange about the possibilities. However, it is > not a work item of the PERC WG to specify a solution for > recording. I would expect any technical work on solving PERC > recording would need to be chartered in the most relevant WG. I > think the ones interested in recording should be active in the WG > work to ensure that the developed solution do support recording. > If there are contention between the goals, then we will need to > have a serious discussion. But, remember that we have clear goals > of ensuring end to end security, thus compromises to the security > model to fit recording will be unlikely to be accepted. > > Cheers > > Magnus Westerlund > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Services, Media and Network features, Ericsson Research EAB/TXM > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 > <tel:%2B46%2010%207148287> > Färögatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 > <tel:%2B46%2073%200949079> > SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden | mailto: > magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com <mailto:magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > dispatch mailing list > dispatch@ietf.org <mailto:dispatch@ietf.org> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dispatch > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dispatch mailing list > dispatch@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dispatch
- [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal Mary Barnes
- Re: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal Adam Roach
- Re: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal Roni Even
- Re: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal Mary Barnes
- Re: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal Göran Eriksson AP
- Re: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal Mary Barnes
- Re: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal Göran Eriksson AP
- Re: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal Ram Mohan R (rmohanr)
- Re: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal Eric Rescorla
- Re: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal Peter Saint-Andre - &yet
- Re: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal Eric Rescorla
- Re: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal Ram Mohan R (rmohanr)
- Re: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal Hutton, Andrew
- Re: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal Eric Rescorla
- Re: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal Eric Rescorla
- Re: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal Adam Roach
- Re: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal Ram Mohan R (rmohanr)
- Re: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal Eric Rescorla
- Re: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal Parthasarathi R
- Re: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal Ben Campbell
- Re: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal Ram Mohan R (rmohanr)
- Re: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal Roni Even
- Re: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal Magnus Westerlund