Re: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal

Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> Fri, 29 May 2015 09:32 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal
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Hi,

I hope others can comment on this also.

Göran Eriksson AP skrev den 2015-05-25 17:10:
> Hi,
>
> I have some minor comments concerning the meaning of ³SIP² and ³WebRTC²
> endpoints.
>
> Sorry for the late response and for top-posting but it became a bit messy
> to add inline:
>
> 1. The link to
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtcweb-overview/ did not work?

It works fine for me.

> 2. The text uses ³SIP² and ³WebRTC² to describe the different kind of
> end-points that are in scope.
>     W3C WebRTC WG recognises the fact that the WebRTC end points can be
> browser end points
>     (browser + web (client portion of) web app) or native WebRTC (or rather
> rtcweb) clients and both are in scope for the W3C WG.
>     The browser endpoint trust model is different from that of native
> clients and it is also evolving.
>     I think that clarity in how different endpoints trust model and
> security framework look like and different is beneficial for several of
> the deliverables, notably 2,3 and 5.

The use of WebRTC endpoints where deliberate by my and intended to cover 
not only browsers but anything meeting the WebRTC endpoint definition. 
So the question, does this need to be made more explicit in the charter?

>
> 3. The charter says it will ³notify² W3C WebRTC about this activity; what
> do the WG expect to get back and why not Œcoordinate¹? And are there other
> W3C WG¹s that are relevant?

I think the expectation is that in the end W3C and likely RTCWEB WG 
agrees to integrate the PERC solution into their specifications so that 
one can actually use it with WebRTC. In intermediate step I think it 
will be a question of notifying for example when there exist a proposed 
blue-print for integration. This may be an example of where coordinate 
might be needed.

I could see that we could change the last sentence in the collaboration 
part from:
"We will notify AVTCore, CLUE, MMUSIC, RTCWEB, SIPREC, W3C WebRTC, and 
other related groups about this work."

to
"We will notify, and when needed coordinate with, AVTCore, CLUE, MMUSIC, 
RTCWEB, SIPREC, W3C WebRTC, and other related groups about this work."

Opinions?

Cheers

Magnus Westerlund

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