Re: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal

Göran Eriksson AP <goran.ap.eriksson@ericsson.com> Mon, 01 June 2015 10:06 UTC

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From: Göran Eriksson AP <goran.ap.eriksson@ericsson.com>
To: Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>, Mary Barnes <mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com>
Thread-Topic: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal
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Subject: Re: [dispatch] Updated PERC Charter proposal
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>Hi,
>
>I have edited the proposed change into the Google Doc. Any more feedback
>on this?

No, Mary’s statement on deliverables and You addition addresses my
concerns well enough at this pint, :-).


>
>Cheers
>
>Magnus
>
>Mary Barnes skrev den 2015-05-29 16:53:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 4:32 AM, Magnus Westerlund
>> <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com <mailto:magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi,
>>
>>     I hope others can comment on this also.
>>
>>     Göran Eriksson AP skrev den 2015-05-25 17:10:
>>
>>         Hi,
>>
>>         I have some minor comments concerning the meaning of ³SIP² and
>>         ³WebRTC²
>>         endpoints.
>>
>>         Sorry for the late response and for top-posting but it became a
>>         bit messy
>>         to add inline:
>>
>>         1. The link to
>>         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtcweb-overview/ did
>>         not work?
>>
>>
>>     It works fine for me.
>>
>>         2. The text uses ³SIP² and ³WebRTC² to describe the different
>>         kind of
>>         end-points that are in scope.
>>              W3C WebRTC WG recognises the fact that the WebRTC end
>>         points can be
>>         browser end points
>>              (browser + web (client portion of) web app) or native
>>         WebRTC (or rather
>>         rtcweb) clients and both are in scope for the W3C WG.
>>              The browser endpoint trust model is different from that of
>>         native
>>         clients and it is also evolving.
>>              I think that clarity in how different endpoints trust
>>model and
>>         security framework look like and different is beneficial for
>>         several of
>>         the deliverables, notably 2,3 and 5.
>>
>>
>>     The use of WebRTC endpoints where deliberate by my and intended to
>>     cover not only browsers but anything meeting the WebRTC endpoint
>>     definition. So the question, does this need to be made more explicit
>>     in the charter?
>>
>> [MB] I think this is fine as is in the charter - certainly it needs to
>> be clear in the deliverables but that's a detail we can deal with there.
>> [/MB]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         3. The charter says it will ³notify² W3C WebRTC about this
>>         activity; what
>>         do the WG expect to get back and why not Œcoordinate¹? And are
>>         there other
>>         W3C WG¹s that are relevant?
>>
>>
>>     I think the expectation is that in the end W3C and likely RTCWEB WG
>>     agrees to integrate the PERC solution into their specifications so
>>     that one can actually use it with WebRTC. In intermediate step I
>>     think it will be a question of notifying for example when there
>>     exist a proposed blue-print for integration. This may be an example
>>     of where coordinate might be needed.
>>
>>     I could see that we could change the last sentence in the
>>     collaboration part from:
>>     "We will notify AVTCore, CLUE, MMUSIC, RTCWEB, SIPREC, W3C WebRTC,
>>     and other related groups about this work."
>>
>>     to
>>     "We will notify, and when needed coordinate with, AVTCore, CLUE,
>>     MMUSIC, RTCWEB, SIPREC, W3C WebRTC, and other related groups about
>>     this work."
>>
>>     Opinions?
>>
>> [MB] I think the suggested change is fine. [/MB]
>>
>>
>>     Cheers
>>
>>     Magnus Westerlund
>>
>>     
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>
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>Magnus Westerlund
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