Re: [Diversity] IETF Diversity Update

[Alejandro Acosta <[e-mail]>]

Hello,
  My two cents: A good moment to try to bring people to IETF is when new
WG are created. I believe that it's easier to participate from scratch
than when the WG already has many documents and some people already know
each other.
  Maybe we should try some sort of outreach few weeks before and after a
WG creation.

Regards,

Alejandro,




  I wonder if there is anyway we can

El 12/7/2015 a las 6:21 AM, SM escribió:
> Hi Kathleen,
> At 04:59 06-12-2015, Kathleen Moriarty wrote:
>> I do think we've come a long way in the past few years and am sad to
>> see no acknowledgement of that except mine in any of these posts. 
>> Sure, there's lots to be done and I clearly see the issues, but think
>> without some acknowledgment of progress, it's hard to make more or to
>> get people to come to an IETF to make a judgment call of their own.
>
> I'll comment by taking a glimpse at the IETF mailing list as I did a
> year or more ago.  Over the last two weeks, there were two messages
> from female participants.  Both of those messages are from Area
> Directors.  There was a message from a participant in Africa which was
> a vote of support for a call about selecting members of a non-IETF
> board.  There wasn't any message from Latin America.
>
> I took a cursory look at
> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg95497.html  I did
> not find any female participant.  Here are the numbers by hemisphere:
>
>   North  26
>   South   2
>
> I used place of residence instead of characteristics of a person for
> the above.
>
> The graph from Jari shows U.S. versus rest of the world.  I'll use the
> statistics from Jari for a author/continent breakdown (recent RFCs):
>
>   North America 78%
>   Europe        64%
>   Asia          22%
>   Australia      5%
>
> I skipped the other regions of the world as the numbers are lower than
> 1%.  I looked at current IESG membership; the members are either
> residents of the U.S. or Europe.
>
> What has changed in the IETF over the last few years?  There are more
> female IESG members from the U.S./Europe.  The statistics silently
> ignores everything else.  Does it make a difference for a woman
> residing in the U.S./Europe if there are more women on the IESG?  Does
> it make a different for a woman residing outside the U.S./Europe?  The
> better answer would be from a person in those regions.
>
> An ISOC Trustee stated the following: "It's become clear that there
> are systemic issues".  If there is any issue, it would be that the
> person who openly speak/write will face negative action.   Everyone
> else will see the consequences and will not dare to openly speak/write.
>
> Regards,
> -sm
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