Re: [Diversity] IETF Diversity Update
Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> Thu, 17 December 2015 06:18 UTC
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On 12/15/2015 12:45 PM, SM wrote: > Hi Fernando, Vinayak, Alejandro, > At 00:42 15-12-2015, Fernando Gont wrote: >> I'm not they "you" you meant :-), but I can provide names: > > Fernando, thanks for providing the information. > >> That said, I don't think "lack of awareness" is the real problem here. > > From http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/diversity/current/msg00700.html > > 'kind of got the feeling that that there was the intent to do > something about it, but for the most part it was "energy spent > without careful analysis of what the underlying problem was".' > > From > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/diversity/current/msg00695.html I > read that the agencies providing funding for countries in Latin America > do not find it useful to spend money on IETF standardisation work. > > The statistics provided by Jari Arkko measures IETF Contributions in > terms of RFC authorship. I could be a WG Secretary/Chair; that has less > "value" unless I am interested in becoming An Area Director. Not sure what you mean by "has less value"... > A > company/agency would view it useful if it derives a benefit from having > a person in that position. > > What is your opinion about the above? Not sure I understand the question. If it is "for companies/agencies, what is of more value? authoring documents or a management position?", then the answer would be "it depends on the company/agency, and varies a lot from one to another". If the question is what *I* think i of more value, then I'd say that it's similar as asking "what's of more value for a car? the sparks, the fuel, or the carburetor?". i.e., unless all parts work properly, the car doesn't work, or you get suboptimal performace, or the car eventually breaks, etc... -- Fernando Gont SI6 Networks e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492
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- Re: [Diversity] IETF Diversity Update Vinayak Hegde
- Re: [Diversity] Behaviors vs. Demographics (was -… Vinayak Hegde
- Re: [Diversity] IETF Diversity Update Fernando Gont
- Re: [Diversity] Behaviors vs. Demographics (was -… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [Diversity] IETF Diversity Update Vinayak Hegde
- Re: [Diversity] IETF Diversity Update SM
- Re: [Diversity] IETF Diversity Update Alejandro Acosta
- Re: [Diversity] IETF Diversity Update Fernando Gont
- Re: [Diversity] Behaviors vs. Demographics (was -… SM
- Re: [Diversity] IETF Diversity Update Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [Diversity] IETF Diversity Update Fernando Gont
- Re: [Diversity] IETF Diversity Update Alejandro Acosta
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- Re: [Diversity] IETF Diversity Update SM
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- Re: [Diversity] IETF Diversity Update Vinayak Hegde
- Re: [Diversity] IETF Diversity Update SM
- Re: [Diversity] IETF Diversity Update Alejandro Acosta
- Re: [Diversity] IETF Diversity Update SM
- Re: [Diversity] IETF Diversity Update Fernando Gont
- Re: [Diversity] IETF Diversity Update STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: [Diversity] IETF Diversity Update Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [Diversity] IETF Diversity Update SM
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- Re: [Diversity] IETF Diversity Update SM
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- Re: [Diversity] IETF Diversity Update Fernando Gont
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