Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of DNS Reverse Mapping"

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of DNS Reverse Mapping"
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On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 06:34:38AM +1100, Mark Andrews wrote:
> 
> 	Multiple PTR records do not scale.

	what does that mean Mark?
	
	why does "Multiple A records" scale and not others?
	is this a DNS protocol issue or an implementation artifact?


> 	Today we have reverse lookups that fail because people
> 	followed this path and exceeded the 64K DNS message size
> 	of TCP.

	and the same failure would be true for multiple instances
	of any RR type. 

> 	When people have a 100 thousand virtual domains on a 
> 	box you just can't have PTR records for all of them.

	and apparently you can't have A records for them either.

> 
> 	Mark

	so the actual spec limit is any mixture of RR types that
	will fit into a 64k DNS message on TCP.  Right?

--bill
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