Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of DNS Reverse Mapping"

Robert Story <rstory@sparta.com> Sat, 29 March 2008 22:24 UTC

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On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:28:17 -0700 JINMEI wrote:
JT/> At Fri, 14 Mar 2008 04:45:00 +0100,
JT/> Section 3.2
JT/> 
JT/>    Reports from operators suggest that scoring mail on the basis of
JT/>    missing or non-matching reverse mapping remains an imperfect but
JT/>    useful measure of the likelihood that a given message is spam,
JT/>    particularly in combination with other measures.  It is clear that
JT/>    the presence of reverse mapping, and a match between the forward and
JT/>    reverse zones, is neither a necessary nor sufficient condition for a
JT/>    candidate message to be spam.
JT/> 
JT/> I'm not very much comfortable with a statement based on "some people
JT/> say something" because it's difficult to assess its validity.  In 
JT/> fact, I cannot really be sure that reverse mapping-based approach is
JT/> that effective, considering the fact that most of today's spams are
JT/> sent from botnets and the reverse mappings are often provided (when
JT/> provided) by the ISP, rather than the end users who host the bots.

But that's exactly _why_ it's effective.. the bots cannot change the ISP's
reversing mapping, so a system admin can decide to mark mail coming from dynamic27381.big-isp.example.com as very likely being spam.

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Robert Story
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