Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of DNS Reverse Mapping"
Dean Anderson <dean@av8.com> Fri, 14 March 2008 22:54 UTC
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I oppose this document. I won't go into details since none of my objections have ever been addressed, other than to say "We addressed your objection" with a frivolous change or no change at all. Reposting the details seems an utter waste of time. If this document is eventually approved by the WG, I will file a detailed objection with the IESG. I see no point in further detailed discussion until that event transpires, except to note that I remain opposed. I don't expect my opposition to change unless the previously noted problems are addressed, and so far, they've either been ignored or frivolously handled. I believe the objections of others have also been ignored or frivolously handled. Thanks, --Dean On Fri, 14 Mar 2008, Peter Koch wrote: > Dear WG, > > in accordance with the roadmap posted the other day, this is to initiate > a working group last call on > > "Considerations for the use of DNS Reverse Mapping" > draft-ietf-dnsop-reverse-mapping-considerations-06.txt > > ending Friday, 2008-04-04, 18:00 UTC. > > The document is aimed at a status of "BCP". > Please review the draft and send comments and/or statements of support orFrom dnsop-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 14 15:54:16 2008 Return-Path: <dnsop-bounces@ietf.org> X-Original-To: ietfarch-dnsop-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-dnsop-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3B4D28C0E5; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:54:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.691 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.691 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.254, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id myRh3RNZHsmX; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:54:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D5428C170; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:54:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dnsop@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dnsop@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ABDF28C189 for <dnsop@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:54:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id luTFmMe4wCHx for <dnsop@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:54:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cirrus.av8.net (cirrus.av8.net [130.105.36.66]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6365D3A687F for <dnsop@ietf.org>; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:54:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from citation2.av8.net (citation2.av8.net [130.105.12.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by cirrus.av8.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m2EMppbg000938 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:51:51 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:51:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Dean Anderson <dean@av8.com> X-X-Sender: dean@citation2.av8.net To: Peter Koch <pk@denic.de> In-Reply-To: <20080314034500.GE7553@x27.adm.denic.de> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0803141843290.17638-100000@citation2.av8.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: IETF DNSOP WG <dnsop@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of DNS Reverse Mapping" X-BeenThere: dnsop@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNSOP WG mailing list <dnsop.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop>, <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/pipermail/dnsop> List-Post: <mailto:dnsop@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop>, <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dnsop-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dnsop-bounces@ietf.org I oppose this document. I won't go into details since none of my objections have ever been addressed, other than to say "We addressed your objection" with a frivolous change or no change at all. Reposting the details seems an utter waste of time. If this document is eventually approved by the WG, I will file a detailed objection with the IESG. I see no point in further detailed discussion until that event transpires, except to note that I remain opposed. I don't expect my opposition to change unless the previously noted problems are addressed, and so far, they've either been ignored or frivolously handled. I believe the objections of others have also been ignored or frivolously handled. Thanks, --Dean On Fri, 14 Mar 2008, Peter Koch wrote: > Dear WG, > > in accordance with the roadmap posted the other day, this is to initiate > a working group last call on > > "Considerations for the use of DNS Reverse Mapping" > draft-ietf-dnsop-reverse-mapping-considerations-06.txt > > ending Friday, 2008-04-04, 18:00 UTC. > > The document is aimed at a status of "BCP". > Please review the draft and send comments and/or statements of support or > non-support to the WG mailing list. We have taken names of volunteers, > but everyone is encouraged to review. There will be a five reviewer threshold > and _no_ default action. > > -Peter [co-chair hat on] > _______________________________________________ > DNSOP mailing list > DNSOP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop > > -- Av8 Internet Prepared to pay a premium for better service? www.av8.net faster, more reliable, better service 617 344 9000 _______________________________________________ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop > non-support to the WG mailing list. We have taken names of volunteers, > but everyone is encouraged to review. There will be a five reviewer threshold > and _no_ default action. > > -Peter [co-chair hat on] > _______________________________________________ > DNSOP mailing list > DNSOP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop > > -- Av8 Internet Prepared to pay a premium for better service? www.av8.net faster, more reliable, better service 617 344 9000 _______________________________________________ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop
- [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of DNS … Peter Koch
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … Brian Dickson
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … Dean Anderson
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … Andras Salamon
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … Brian Dickson
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … Brian Dickson
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … Robert Story
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … bmanning
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … Edward Lewis
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … bmanning
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … Edward Lewis
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … Samuel Weiler
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
- [DNSOP] Issue 22, unfairness (was: WGLC: "Conside… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … Dean Anderson
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … bill fumerola
- Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: "Considerations for the use of … Andrew Sullivan