Re: [DNSOP] Fundamental ANAME problems

Måns Nilsson <mansaxel@besserwisser.org> Sat, 03 November 2018 19:33 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Fundamental ANAME problems
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Fundamental ANAME problems Date: Sat, Nov 03, 2018 at 12:04:18PM -0700 Quoting Joe Abley (jabley@hopcount.ca):
> On Nov 3, 2018, at 03:20, Bob Harold <rharolde@umich.edu> wrote:
> 
> > My preference would be a *NAME record that specifies which record types it applies to.  So one could delegate A and AAAA at apex to a web provider, MX to a mail provider, etc.  That would also be valuable at non-apex names.  But I am happy to support ANAME as part of the solution.
> 
> I don't understand this suggestion.
> 
> Some use-cases (or even hypothetical examples) might help.

example.org. IN SOA foo bar 2018102802 300 3600 3600000 300
example.org. IN NS	primary.se.
example.org. IN NS	secondary.se.
example.org. IN MX	10 some.host.gmail.com
_http._tcp.example.org. IN URI	10 20	"https://example-lb-frontend.hosting.namn.se:8090/path/down/in/filestructure/"
example.org. IN	TXT	"v=spf0x41 not valid. because SPF records belong in RRtype 99."
example.org. IN	AFSDB	1 db0.example.org.
example.org. IN	AFSDB	1 db1.example.org.
example.org. IN	AFSDB	1 db2.example.org.
example.org. IN SPF	"v=spf1 +all"


We already have this. We need not build a new mechanism. 

/Måns, sounding like a broken record. 
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Is this an out-take from the "BRADY BUNCH"?