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Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc drafts

Matthijs Mekking <matthijs@pletterpet.nl> Thu, 20 February 2020 08:29 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc drafts
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On 2/18/20 5:17 PM, Olli Vanhoja wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Feb 18, 2020, 16:20 Klaus Malorny <Klaus.Malorny@knipp.de
> <mailto:Klaus.Malorny@knipp.de>> wrote:
> 
> 
>     I asked myself about the status of the two drafts. I got the
>     impression a little
>     bit that the svcb/httpsvc draft successfully killed the aname draft,
>     but is now
>     dying slowly itself. It would be great if somebody could give me
>     some insight
>     whether the one or the other has still a measurable heartbeat, to
>     stay with the
>     allegories ;-)
> 
> 
> SVCB is active almost every day of the week in GitHub.
> 
> I can't talk on behalf of the authors of the ANAME draft, but to me it
> seems that SVCB is getting more traction and it addresses the core
> problems that ANAME was supposed to solve.

ANAME was supposed to solve the CNAME at the apex problem and mitigate
against DNS vendor lock in. Both SVCB and HTTPSSCV do not fix this problem.

But yeah, the draft is pretty much dead due to lack of interest.

- Matthijs

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