Re: [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc5322bis-03
Steffen Nurpmeso <steffen@sdaoden.eu> Wed, 03 August 2022 22:32 UTC
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Author: Steffen Nurpmeso <steffen@sdaoden.eu>
From: Steffen Nurpmeso <steffen@sdaoden.eu>
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Subject: Re: [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc5322bis-03
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Jeremy Harris wrote in <3e5240b4-12ad-0fa1-398a-659a074e46d7@wizmail.org>: |On 03/08/2022 00:14, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: |> Though "-0000" also indicates Universal Time, it is used to |> indicate that the time was generated on a system that may be |> in a local time zone other than Universal Time and that the |> date-time contains no information about the local time zone. |> |> because the widely used MTA exim does not do that (or did not when |> the patch was committed in 2020, i did not look at the current |> code base). | |I don't think it's changed in that aspect. | |My probable reasoning was |a) a sub-minute offset (TAI being the case in point) | is not displayable with the existing format |b) UTC is calculable, displayable, and well-understood |c) there was existing handling for UTC timestamps | as a config option | |I wasn't aware of the "-0000" indicator |and I wouldn't have taken a UTC time as indicating that |the writer of it was in the GMT timezone. | |I probably still wouldn't... I don't recall *ever* |seeing "-0000". Me neither, consciously. Nor do i believe that most (practically, all) people ever will put value on that "-". There was just a bell ringing when i saw the changeset. The important thing to me was of course your struct tm* pointer switch from localtime(3) to gmtime(3). I will do this too. Ciao, --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)
- [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc5322bis… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc532… John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc532… John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc532… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc532… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc532… Todd Herr
- Re: [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc532… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc532… Todd Herr
- Re: [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc532… John C Klensin
- Re: [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc532… John C Klensin
- Re: [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc532… Ken Murchison
- Re: [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc532… Steffen Nurpmeso
- Re: [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc532… Peter J. Holzer
- Re: [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc532… John C Klensin
- Re: [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc532… John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc532… John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc532… Steffen Nurpmeso
- Re: [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc532… Steffen Nurpmeso
- Re: [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc532… Peter J. Holzer
- Re: [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc532… John C Klensin
- Re: [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc532… John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc532… John C Klensin
- Re: [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc532… Steffen Nurpmeso
- Re: [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc532… Peter J. Holzer
- Re: [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc532… John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc532… Steffen Nurpmeso
- Re: [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc532… Jeremy Harris
- Re: [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc532… Steffen Nurpmeso
- Re: [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc532… Julien ÉLIE
- Re: [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc532… John C Klensin
- Re: [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc532… Julien ÉLIE
- Re: [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc532… John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc532… Russ Allbery
- Re: [Emailcore] WGLC: draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc532… Alexey Melnikov
- [Emailcore] Time zones (was: Re: WGLC: draft-ietf… John C Klensin
- Re: [Emailcore] Time zones Russ Allbery
- Re: [Emailcore] Time zones (was: Re: WGLC: draft-… Steffen Nurpmeso
- Re: [Emailcore] Time zones John C Klensin
- Re: [Emailcore] Time zones Russ Allbery
- Re: [Emailcore] Time zones John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Time zones (was: Re: WGLC: draft-… John C Klensin
- Re: [Emailcore] Time zones (was: Re: WGLC: draft-… Steffen Nurpmeso
- Re: [Emailcore] Time zones Keith Moore